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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #1019

    Yamaha price increase announced for August 1… But that’s been a fairly typical timeframe. I don’t mind saying the increase is above inflation…

    The Brad

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote last edited by
      #1020

      I was on an investment strategy call with Merrill and they still think the tariffs are mostly a tactical threat and that they still expect decent corporate earnings for Q2, many coming out this week.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        #1021

        One funny thing though, they always come up with pithy names for various bear market episodes when they refer to them or compare them across time.

        Example, the dot-com bust, the Great Financial Crisis, Covid, etc.

        The name they settled on for the spring bear market and the associated volatility is ‘The Tariff Tantrum’.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          #1022

          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/us/politics/canada-tariffs-mark-carney-trump.html

          Canada’s Leader Says There’s Little Hope of Avoiding U.S. Tariffs
          After long insisting that Canada could avoid Trump tariffs through talks, Mark Carney now says that is unlikely for any nation.

          Maybe the sh!t will hit the fan for real this time. 🤷

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            #1023

            So basically time the Trump Tariff Tantrum and make some money but get out of the market before the great dollar collapse of 2035?

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              #1024

              We’ll see. Their ‘base case’ forecast is always pretty optimistic. They are in the business of getting you to invest your money after all, not put it in your mattress.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                We’ll see. Their ‘base case’ forecast is always pretty optimistic. They are in the business of getting you to invest your money after all, not put it in your mattress.

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                blondie
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                #1025

                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                We’ll see. Their ‘base case’ forecast is always pretty optimistic. They are in the business of getting you to invest your money after all, not put it in your mattress.

                I’m having to attend a little strategy lunch with my finance guy tomorrow. I’m wondering what he’ll propose and how I’l react. My son had his meeting last week, and now a small portion of his portfolio has been infused with Crypto. AI and Bitcoin seem to be topics of Zoom meetings and webinars of late, but I don’t understand this stuff, .. at my stage of life, I hesitate. Yet I’ve too much sitting as cash, and my freeholder stuff isn’t flowing so well now. I’m quite tired of your president’s Tariff Tantum.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/us/politics/canada-tariffs-mark-carney-trump.html

                  Canada’s Leader Says There’s Little Hope of Avoiding U.S. Tariffs
                  After long insisting that Canada could avoid Trump tariffs through talks, Mark Carney now says that is unlikely for any nation.

                  Maybe the sh!t will hit the fan for real this time. 🤷

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote last edited by
                  #1026

                  @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/us/politics/canada-tariffs-mark-carney-trump.html

                  Canada’s Leader Says There’s Little Hope of Avoiding U.S. Tariffs
                  After long insisting that Canada could avoid Trump tariffs through talks, Mark Carney now says that is unlikely for any nation.

                  Maybe the sh!t will hit the fan for real this time. 🤷

                  Carney is just being realistic about the future trading relationship. No sense looking at it any other way.

                  Canada will just have to build closer trade and investment relations with the UK, EU, the Asian markets and South America where practicable.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    wrote last edited by
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                    By the way, Trump put a 50% tariff on Brazilian imports. That’s where 1/3 of our coffee comes from.

                    I read that if you grew coffee on every square inch of land in the US that can grow coffee, most of which is in Hawaii, it would keep the Pacific Northwest supplied with coffee for a week.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      By the way, Trump put a 50% tariff on Brazilian imports. That’s where 1/3 of our coffee comes from.

                      I read that if you grew coffee on every square inch of land in the US that can grow coffee, most of which is in Hawaii, it would keep the Pacific Northwest supplied with coffee for a week.

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #1028

                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                      By the way, Trump put a 50% tariff on Brazilian imports. That’s where 1/3 of our coffee comes from.

                      I read that if you grew coffee on every square inch of land in the US that can grow coffee, most of which is in Hawaii, it would keep the Pacific Northwest supplied with coffee for a week.

                      FFS, coffee beans are already wholesaling for 2x-3x what they were 5 years ago. My favorite coffee that I was buying for $12 a bag in 2020 is $18 right now…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                        By the way, Trump put a 50% tariff on Brazilian imports. That’s where 1/3 of our coffee comes from.

                        I read that if you grew coffee on every square inch of land in the US that can grow coffee, most of which is in Hawaii, it would keep the Pacific Northwest supplied with coffee for a week.

                        FFS, coffee beans are already wholesaling for 2x-3x what they were 5 years ago. My favorite coffee that I was buying for $12 a bag in 2020 is $18 right now…

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                        FFS, coffee beans are already wholesaling for 2x-3x what they were 5 years ago. My favorite coffee that I was buying for $12 a bag in 2020 is $18 right now…

                        Calm down, man. Just think about the alternative. Is it still better than the alternative?

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                          FFS, coffee beans are already wholesaling for 2x-3x what they were 5 years ago. My favorite coffee that I was buying for $12 a bag in 2020 is $18 right now…

                          Calm down, man. Just think about the alternative. Is it still better than the alternative?

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                          @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                          FFS, coffee beans are already wholesaling for 2x-3x what they were 5 years ago. My favorite coffee that I was buying for $12 a bag in 2020 is $18 right now…

                          Calm down, man. Just think about the alternative. Is it still better than the alternative?

                          Oh fuck yeah.

                          The Brad

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                            wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                            #1031

                            He’s thirty points underwater on inflation. Even though tariff inflation is only just getting started.

                            I think a lot it is that many people think ‘taming inflation’ means bringing prices down to some level where they’re ‘supposed to be’. Trump encouraged then to think this way during the campaign.

                            IMG_6355.jpeg

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              He’s thirty points underwater on inflation. Even though tariff inflation is only just getting started.

                              I think a lot it is that many people think ‘taming inflation’ means bringing prices down to some level where they’re ‘supposed to be’. Trump encouraged then to think this way during the campaign.

                              IMG_6355.jpeg

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                              wrote last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                              I think a lot it is that many people think ‘taming inflation’ means bringing prices down to some level where they’re ‘supposed to be’. Trump encouraged then to think this way during the campaign.

                              What are you talking about? Eggs are going for 2 cents each in Trump's Fantasy World, gas is 79 cents a gallon, and gallons are now 10 pints!

                              I was only joking

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                                #1033

                                "many people have told me" he says, too

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  "many people have told me" he says, too

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #1034

                                  @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                                  "many people have told me" he says, too

                                  Presumably not the 'Very Bad People' who whisper to him from under the stairs about Jeffrey Epstein's list while he's waiting for the stairlift to arrive, but the 'Very Fine People' who tell him he's the Greatest President Ever on the hour, every hour.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    xenon
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                                    #1035

                                    Im still salty that Trump normalized MMT across republicans.

                                    We’re in for some pain in the future.

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                                      Im still salty that Trump normalized MMT across republicans.

                                      We’re in for some pain in the future.

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                                      Horace
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                                      #1036

                                      @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

                                      Im still salty that Trump normalized MMT across republicans.

                                      We’re in for some pain in the future.

                                      There was never any stopping that train, and the budget deficit would have been worse under Harris.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

                                        Im still salty that Trump normalized MMT across republicans.

                                        We’re in for some pain in the future.

                                        There was never any stopping that train, and the budget deficit would have been worse under Harris.

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                                        xenon
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #1037

                                        @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                        @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

                                        Im still salty that Trump normalized MMT across republicans.

                                        We’re in for some pain in the future.

                                        There was never any stopping that train, and the budget deficit would have been worse under Harris.

                                        I don’t know. Harris would have had a lot to prove. The republicans would have howled to the high heavens about the deficit (but would have also given her shit if she didn’t cut taxes).

                                        But they would have at least stuck to their traditional stance of deficits=bad.

                                        I expect this sort of profligacy from the Dems.

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                                          wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                                          #1038

                                          There’s talk of firing Powell again. I doubt he goes there. It’s just threats that will be ineffective. I mean the guy is gone in 10 months anyway, is he going to sell out to Trump or preserve his reputation and that of the Fed?

                                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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