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Helicopter Crash in DC

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  • 89th8 Online
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    89th
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    My condo used to overlook Reagan (5 miles away) and of course there’s nonstop planes landing and taking off and also dozens of helicopters each night but rarely did they cross into the flight paths for Reagan. Either it’s deliberate or more likely an absolute fluke. Tragedy.

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    • 89th8 89th

      Incredible. January too. Reminded me of the Air Florida icy river crash in 1980 or so.

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      @89th said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

      Incredible. January too. Reminded me of the Air Florida icy river crash in 1980 or so.

      I remember that one, I left work early because of the snow

      We watched Lennie Skutnick - the hero on live tv, an innocent bystander, he dove into the Potomac and rescued a passenger, maybe it was a stewardess

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      • 89th8 Online
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        Mid air collision between American Eagle 5342 (N709PS) and helo Army PAT-25 (VH-60), both aircraft in the Potomac off rwy 33

        That is from the airport authority

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        • 89th8 89th

          Mid air collision between American Eagle 5342 (N709PS) and helo Army PAT-25 (VH-60), both aircraft in the Potomac off rwy 33

          That is from the airport authority

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          @89th said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

          off rwy 33

          that's where the 3 helicopters appear to be searching

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          • 89th8 Online
            89th8 Online
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            image.png

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            • 89th8 Online
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              89th
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              IMG_1391.jpeg

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              • CopperC Offline
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                Copper
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                #14

                The flight position recording - ends over the Potomac

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  Welcome to Pete Hegseth’s DoD.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Little early with the horseshit, aren't you?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      You should see my worm collection.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • 89th8 Online
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                        That’s from the pilot flying just behind the plane that crashed.

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                        • 89th8 Online
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                          89th
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                          IMG_1393.jpeg

                          Can see the helicopter flying south along the Potomac.

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                            IMG_1394.jpeg

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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              That's just awful.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                So the passenger jet crashed too, correct?

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • 89th8 Online
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                                  Oh yes. Both aircraft in icy water. Explosion too. Very doubtful for the ~65 people

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                                    @89th said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                    Incredible. January too. Reminded me of the Air Florida icy river crash in 1980 or so.

                                    I remember that one, I left work early because of the snow

                                    We watched Lennie Skutnick - the hero on live tv, an innocent bystander, he dove into the Potomac and rescued a passenger, maybe it was a stewardess

                                    89th8 Online
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                                    @Copper said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                    @89th said in Helicopter Crash in DC:

                                    Incredible. January too. Reminded me of the Air Florida icy river crash in 1980 or so.

                                    I remember that one, I left work early because of the snow

                                    We watched Lennie Skutnick - the hero on live tv, an innocent bystander, he dove into the Potomac and rescued a passenger, maybe it was a stewardess

                                    Yeah he kept helping people into life rings from the helicopter but when they came back for him, he was gone

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                                    • 89th8 Online
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                                      IMG_1395.jpeg

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                                      • 89th8 Online
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                                        #26

                                        Live tower audio. The helicopter was told to maintain visual separation and fly BEHIND the jet. Obviously it seems this is a major piloting issue by the army chopper. "Fly behind CRJ, visual sep" around 17:32, with background reaction voices at 17:49 or so.

                                        https://archive.liveatc.net/kdca/KDCA1-Twr-Jan-30-2025-0130Z.mp3

                                        UPDATE: Better link for the audio. The helicopter pilot is heard at 0:10 "aircraft in sight, visual separation".

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                                        • 89th8 Online
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                                          Blue Streak 5342 is the CRJ. Pat 25 is the helo

                                          4 mins prior to crash: "Tower, Blue Streak 5342 on Mount Vernon Visual Runway 1"

                                          "Blue Streak 5342, Washington Tower, winds are 320/17G25 can you take Runway 33?"

                                          30 sec pause

                                          "Yeah we can do Runway 33 for Bluestreak 5342"

                                          "Bluestreak 5342 (unclear) bridge make the turn for 33, cleared to land 33"

                                          "Change to Runway 33, cleared to land 33 bluestreak 5342"

                                          Other traffic being handled to Runway 1.

                                          Approx 2.5 mins to crash:

                                          Pat25: "PAT25 memorial."

                                          Tower: Pat25 rodger.

                                          Approx 1:20 till crash:

                                          Tower: "PAT25 traffic just south of (unclear) bridge is a CRJ at 1,200ft turning for Runway 33"

                                          PAT25: PAT25 has the Traffic in sight, request visual separation

                                          Tower: Visual separation approved.

                                          Tower: "American 1631 winds are (unclear) no delay, traffic on 3 mile final for Runway 33 cleared for immediate takeoff"

                                          "Cleared for takeoff, AA1631"

                                          Approximately 10 seconds prior to collision

                                          Tower: "PAT25 do you have the CRJ in sight?"

                                          Tower: "PAT25 (unclear maybe pass behind) CRJ"

                                          Pat25: Affirm. Pat 25 has traffic in sight request visual separation.

                                          Tower: Separation.

                                          15 seconds later

                                          "Tower, AA472 (unclear)"

                                          "American 472 washington tower" alarms going off "Oooh!" "Oh my god!" *click

                                          15 seconds later

                                          "Tower, did you see that?"

                                          Tower frantically begins commanding go arounds and deconfliction.

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