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    Jolly
    wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 02:58 last edited by
    #1

    More to follow...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Jolly
      wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 03:03 last edited by
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      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pete-hegseth-confirmed-lead-pentagon-after-vp-vance-casts-tie-breaking-vote

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Horace
        wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 14:48 last edited by
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        My liberal podcast friends are beside themselves with this one. "Worst cabinet pick in the history of America", says The Bulwark. I'm not remotely worried about Hegseth personally, and I find the primary reasoning to oppose him, about his philandering, to be laughable in the face of what some of our most venerated top-level politicians have often been. The stories of JFK and his dalliances with the white house interns didn't seem to keep him from being considered a great, great man. This is all special pleading, and I don't expect Hegseth to stumble in that way in this role.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 14:53 last edited by
          #4

          Something Hegseth said in his hearings that stuck with me...

          " We won World War 2 with seven four-star generals. Today, we have forty-four. "

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            George K
            wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 14:57 last edited by
            #5

            Screenshot-2025-01-24-at-8.jpeg

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:22 last edited by
              #6

              I think Murkowski, Collins, and McConnell are going to be eating a whole lot worse things than what we posted in @jon-nyc thread…

              The Brad

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              • G George K
                25 Jan 2025, 14:57

                Screenshot-2025-01-24-at-8.jpeg

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:23 last edited by
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                @George-K said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                Screenshot-2025-01-24-at-8.jpeg

                América needs to teach civics again. This shouldn’t have been a surprise to him.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • J jon-nyc
                  25 Jan 2025, 15:23

                  @George-K said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                  Screenshot-2025-01-24-at-8.jpeg

                  América needs to teach civics again. This shouldn’t have been a surprise to him.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:24 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                  @George-K said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                  Screenshot-2025-01-24-at-8.jpeg

                  América needs to teach civics again. This shouldn’t have been a surprise to him.

                  It’s a frigging joke, Jon…

                  The Brad

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:24 last edited by
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                    So was mine.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:26 last edited by jon-nyc
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                      Also he quit voting in the senate 8 months ago. So it probably did seem weird.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • H Horace
                        25 Jan 2025, 14:48

                        My liberal podcast friends are beside themselves with this one. "Worst cabinet pick in the history of America", says The Bulwark. I'm not remotely worried about Hegseth personally, and I find the primary reasoning to oppose him, about his philandering, to be laughable in the face of what some of our most venerated top-level politicians have often been. The stories of JFK and his dalliances with the white house interns didn't seem to keep him from being considered a great, great man. This is all special pleading, and I don't expect Hegseth to stumble in that way in this role.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:33 last edited by
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                        @Horace

                        The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                        If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          25 Jan 2025, 15:33

                          @Horace

                          The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                          If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:43 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                          @Horace

                          The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                          If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

                          That’s what the whole next 2 years is really about. The specific reason why he was chosen was to disrupt and dismantle the bureaucracy. It will be a popcorn heavy 18 months…

                          The Brad

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            25 Jan 2025, 15:33

                            @Horace

                            The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                            If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:48 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                            @Horace

                            The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                            If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

                            You forgot axe-thrower.

                            Link to video

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:51 last edited by
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                              That’s VP worthy

                              The Brad

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                              • L LuFins Dad
                                25 Jan 2025, 15:43

                                @jon-nyc said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                                @Horace

                                The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                                If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

                                That’s what the whole next 2 years is really about. The specific reason why he was chosen was to disrupt and dismantle the bureaucracy. It will be a popcorn heavy 18 months…

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:52 last edited by
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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                                @jon-nyc said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                                @Horace

                                The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                                If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

                                That’s what the whole next 2 years is really about. The specific reason why he was chosen was to disrupt and dismantle the bureaucracy. It will be a popcorn heavy 18 months…

                                No doubt he’ll implement culture war stuff very publicly. Can’t imagine he’d be anywhere as good as, say, Rummy at taking on the bureaucracy in general. He had force of will, shit tons of CEO experience, and prior knowledge from his stint in the 70s.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • L LuFins Dad
                                  25 Jan 2025, 15:51

                                  That’s VP worthy

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:55 last edited by
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                                  That’s VP worthy

                                  Cheneyrrific!

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    25 Jan 2025, 15:43

                                    @jon-nyc said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                                    @Horace

                                    The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                                    If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

                                    That’s what the whole next 2 years is really about. The specific reason why he was chosen was to disrupt and dismantle the bureaucracy. It will be a popcorn heavy 18 months…

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 17:37 last edited by
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                                    @Horace

                                    The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                                    If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

                                    That’s what the whole next 2 years is really about. The specific reason why he was chosen was to disrupt and dismantle the bureaucracy. It will be a popcorn heavy 18 months…

                                    You sir, are right.

                                    See his generals comment above.

                                    Also, I think he's tasked with cutting inefficient, costly systems. The Chinese can build an aircraft carrier in 18 months, while it takes us ten years.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 17:43 last edited by Jolly
                                      #18

                                      I think you're going to see more stuff like this:

                                      Link to video

                                      Relatively cheap, evolutionary not revolutionary, tons of spare parts and modular.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 20:06 last edited by
                                        #19

                                        So Hegseth was confirmed at 10PM on a Friday night? I mean, he had to have been at a bar, right?

                                        The Brad

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          25 Jan 2025, 15:33

                                          @Horace

                                          The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                                          If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 20:23 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Hegseth Confirmed:

                                          @Horace

                                          The philandering gets more ink but the bigger reason to oppose him is he’s a weekend talk show host with no experience running an organization.

                                          If he fails, which he may well not, it’ll be because the bureaucracy eats him alive.

                                          Was Lloyd Austin a failure or a success, or did he just occupy the position? If Hegseth lasts, then failure or success will be in the eye of the beholder.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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