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Will TikTok Survive?

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  • kluursK Offline
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    kluurs
    wrote on last edited by
    #69

    One of the challenges of tik tok and some other social media is that accounts of popular users are frequently duplicated by others. There is a financial incentive to do so. I know of a number of people who have found others setting up such spoofed fake accounts. It is one of the downsides of tik tok. On Facebook, one is seeing a lot more fake news - reports of celebrity deaths or alleged judicial rulings that make one group or another happy. It is the wild west out there.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by
      #70

      Honest question, 2/3rds of the problem seems to be with the app. The weird permissions and all of the background data the app is gathering. So why not ban the app, but allow the website? The website should have a lot less access to private information, no?

      The Brad

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        #71

        Same algorithm.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Same algorithm.

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          LuFins Dad
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          #72

          @jon-nyc said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

          Same algorithm.

          That effects the videos that they see, yes, and lets them be manipulated, but the privacy concerns and data tracking (which seems to be the big issue) becomes moot.

          The Brad

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          • kluursK Offline
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            kluurs
            wrote on last edited by
            #73

            Tik Tok is back at this moment thanks to that great statesman, the esteemed Donald J Trump.

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            • kluursK Offline
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              kluurs
              wrote on last edited by
              #74

              Rand Paul presenting alternate facts.

              Link to video

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              • kluursK kluurs

                Tik Tok is back at this moment thanks to that great statesman, the esteemed Donald J Trump.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                #75

                @kluurs said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                Tik Tok is back at this moment thanks to that great statesman, the esteemed Donald J Trump.

                Dude you have no excuse for this. The law did not require them to shut down. What the law requires, in the event of non-divestiture, was for the app stores to stop distributing the app or updates to the app. This is happening today, the law is behaving as it was meant to.

                It was ByteDance’s own decision, or perhaps that of the CCP, to turn it off today. The reason they did that is to get the useful idiots we call TikTok users to pressure the US government on the CCP’s behalf.

                They decided to undo their own decision because TFM announced he will give them a 90 day continuance, which he can do exactly once under the law.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • X Offline
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                  xenon
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                  #76

                  Why is Trump on the side of the CCP here? I don’t get it. Even getting donations shouldn’t sway him - it’s so opposed to his brand.

                  Any explanations?

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                  • kluursK Offline
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                    kluurs
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #77

                    More than a few attorneys suggested that it was not smart for Tik Tok to stay up - so long as their was ambiguity in interpretting the law - and with over a billion dollars a day in potential fines - best to take it conservatively. Even as early as this morning, Trump wasn't saying unambiguosly that he'd do the extension.

                    But you're right, it also meant maximum pressure on Trump, congress critters, etc. Tom Cotton and Ed Marky have made themselves targets.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #78

                      Again, nothing in the law required TikTok to turn itself off. The law required the app stores to not make them available and same with internet providers re the website.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #79

                        No doubt the General Counsels of Apple and Google will recommend following the law even if an executive promises not to enforce it. Though I’m sure they’d make the app available again for 90 days when Trump invokes the one-time 90 day continuance.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #80

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • George KG Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by George K
                            #81

                            Shame that X didn't show the rest of his tweet when embedded.

                            "I was a bit surprised to see so many MAGA figures completely reverse their stance on the app, but then I learned a conservative ultra-mega donor (to political campaigns and groups) owns huge stakes in ByteDance. And he is hiring a lot of lobbyists on the right."

                            Downthread:

                            https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna142531

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @jon-nyc said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                              @George-K said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                              She should face a court martial.

                              Damn straight.

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                              Jolly
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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                              @jon-nyc said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                              @George-K said in Will Tik-Tok Survive?:

                              She should face a court martial.

                              Damn straight.

                              Agreed. She knows better.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #83

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #85

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #86

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #87

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          #88

                                          Almost as famous as the social media platform, Twatter!

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