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    Jolly
    wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 00:47 last edited by
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    All part of the election interference reform.

    Go get 'em, Trump!

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 03:35 last edited by jon-nyc
      #20

      ‘Don’t publish polls that are unfavorable to me’ is election interference reform?

      Sounds more like an election interference mandate.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • J Jolly
        19 Dec 2024, 00:47

        All part of the election interference reform.

        Go get 'em, Trump!

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 11:12 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

        All part of the election interference reform.

        Go get 'em, Trump!

        And presumably, if he loses the suit, you will call for the reform of a hopelessly biased legal system.

        I was only joking

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          19 Dec 2024, 11:12

          @Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

          All part of the election interference reform.

          Go get 'em, Trump!

          And presumably, if he loses the suit, you will call for the reform of a hopelessly biased legal system.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 12:20 last edited by
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

          @Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

          All part of the election interference reform.

          Go get 'em, Trump!

          And presumably, if he loses the suit, you will call for the reform of a hopelessly biased legal system.

          The journey of one thousand miles begins with a single step.

          We do have some serious problems.

          1. Journalism (the vast majority) has dived off the cliff into the cesspool of the Left and is no longer objective.
          2. We have an election integrity problem. It needs fixing. Badly.
          3. I've never agreed withSullivan. Politicians - as much as we hate them - should abide by the same laws that apply to the rest of us. That means all laws, including those for slander and libel.
          4. That also means lawfare as a concept and as a practice, should be bludgeoned into extinction.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J jon-nyc
            19 Dec 2024, 03:35

            ‘Don’t publish polls that are unfavorable to me’ is election interference reform?

            Sounds more like an election interference mandate.

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            89th
            wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 14:12 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

            ‘Don’t publish polls that are unfavorable to me’ is election interference reform?

            Sounds more like an election interference mandate.

            Not even sure why this is still being discussed. If Trump loses, the election was rigged and a fraud. If he wins, the election was fine. He's played this game his whole life.... even back to TV ratings.

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              19 Dec 2024, 12:20

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

              @Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

              All part of the election interference reform.

              Go get 'em, Trump!

              And presumably, if he loses the suit, you will call for the reform of a hopelessly biased legal system.

              The journey of one thousand miles begins with a single step.

              We do have some serious problems.

              1. Journalism (the vast majority) has dived off the cliff into the cesspool of the Left and is no longer objective.
              2. We have an election integrity problem. It needs fixing. Badly.
              3. I've never agreed withSullivan. Politicians - as much as we hate them - should abide by the same laws that apply to the rest of us. That means all laws, including those for slander and libel.
              4. That also means lawfare as a concept and as a practice, should be bludgeoned into extinction.
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 14:29 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

              1. That also means lawfare as a concept and as a practice, should be bludgeoned into extinction.

              Prediction: Not a month will go by in the coming years that you don’t enthusiastically cheer some act of lawfare, threatened or delivered

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 16:44 last edited by
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                Depends on your definition of lawfare, I suspect.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 16:55 last edited by jon-nyc
                  #26

                  Your functional definition is ‘a Republican gets charged with something’ so yeah not by that definition.

                  Well there’s Liz Cheney.

                  Maybe your definition is ‘a maga republican gets charged for something’

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    19 Dec 2024, 16:55

                    Your functional definition is ‘a Republican gets charged with something’ so yeah not by that definition.

                    Well there’s Liz Cheney.

                    Maybe your definition is ‘a maga republican gets charged for something’

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                    George K
                    wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 17:13 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                    Well there’s Liz Cheney.

                    She's not been charged. Only accused of witness tampering and ex-parte discussions with a witness.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 17:27 last edited by
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                      Like I said threatened or delivered.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 01:36 last edited by
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                        https://reason.com/2024/12/19/trump-mounts-a-direct-assault-on-the-first-amendment-by-portraying-journalism-as-consumer-fraud/?utm_campaign=reason_brand&utm_content=&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_term=

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 01:57 last edited by
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                          And of course this is the civil version of lawfare (which Jolly cheered, BTW).

                          Despite the fact that it’ll be DOA when it goes before a judge the process is still the punishment intimidation.

                          Hopefully he’ll do this in a jurisdiction with a decent anti-slapp law and maybe even get his shitbag attorneys sanctioned.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 03:20 last edited by
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                            Remind me again ...At what point do they put you in jail during a civil case?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 04:42 last edited by
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                              Remind me again, lawfare fanboi, is imprisonment the only life altering punishment that exists?

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                21 Dec 2024, 04:42

                                Remind me again, lawfare fanboi, is imprisonment the only life altering punishment that exists?

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 12:26 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                Remind me again, lawfare fanboi, is imprisonment the only life altering punishment that exists?

                                It's number one on the charts with a bullet. In some countries, literally.

                                Right now, you're hyperventilating over anything Trump might do. When he has the FBI raid Biden's home, when he uses the Justice Department like a rapier against a political opponent and his supporters, when the Trump White House colludes with local DA's across the country to bring bogus charges -charges sometimes created out of bootstrapping dissimilar laws together in legal pretzel logic - you'll have a point.

                                As for some of the current civil litigation by Trump against the media... I've spoken about Sullivan many, many times. It's bad law. It should have been overturned years ago. Politicians and public figures should enjoy the same standards for libel and defamation.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 12:33 last edited by
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                                  Speaking of lawfare, here's the House report...

                                  https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/final-report-weaponization-federal-government

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 12:34 last edited by jon-nyc
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                                    Nope, I’m just calling you out on your hypocrisy.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 12:39 last edited by
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                                      If you equate fairness with hypocrisy, so be it.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 13:11 last edited by
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                                        Yeah, right.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 13:32 last edited by
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                                          Yeah. Right.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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