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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    #260

    If you click through to the source complainer, one Ms Loomer, there doesn’t seem to be much of any doxxing going on. Rather it’s just saying where ICE is conducting raids.

    Makes sense given that, if you’re worried about ICE you just want to avoid them, and also they seem to wear masks and not display name tags. It would be pretty hard to doxx individual agents in practice.

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      #261

      I assume ‘ICE tracking sites are getting people killed’ is a lie? I haven’t followed too closely but I’m guessing that had an ICE agent been killed I would have been blamed by Trump and his cabinet along with everyone else who didn’t vote for him. Like what happened with Charlie Kirk (who by the way didn’t turn 32 today).

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        Yeah took some screenshots. It’s exactly what you’d think it is. People reporting ICE activity in real time.

        IMG_8316.png IMG_8317.png IMG_8318.png

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          I'll just assume that there's no actual doxing, for the sake of argument. As far as I'm aware, this conversation during Biden's term, stopped with "private businesses can do whatever they want". There was much prancing around misconceptions of free speech. As it happens, Bondi wants to brag about outreach, where the Biden admin kept it under wraps. I'm not a fan of government leaning on social media sites to moderate content, but I'm sure there's a legal and ethical conversation to be had when these social media groups are being used to organize efforts to harass law enforcement and make it more difficult for them to do their jobs.

          Education is extremely important.

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            I'll just assume that there's no actual doxing, for the sake of argument. As far as I'm aware, this conversation during Biden's term, stopped with "private businesses can do whatever they want". There was much prancing around misconceptions of free speech. As it happens, Bondi wants to brag about outreach, where the Biden admin kept it under wraps. I'm not a fan of government leaning on social media sites to moderate content, but I'm sure there's a legal and ethical conversation to be had when these social media groups are being used to organize efforts to harass law enforcement and make it more difficult for them to do their jobs.

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            @Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

            I'm not a fan of government leaning on social media sites to moderate content, but I'm sure there's a legal and ethical conversation to be had when these social media groups are being used to organize efforts to harass law enforcement and make it more difficult for them to do their jobs spread misinformation that can result in increased deaths in real human beings.

            Agreed but I’d still prefer they respect the platform’s independence even if the stakes are material.

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

              I was only joking

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                You’re all off base completely there’s no fraud there will be no discovery this will get tossed.

                Long before the free speech crowd threatened to investigate her for her speech, Nate Silver was giving pundits a hard time for criticizing her so harshly. He wants outlier polls to be published and wants pollsters to have the courage to publish their true results and not sit on them if they’re not in line with everyone else’s. That sort of censorship doesn’t lead to a good result.

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                said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                You’re all off base completely there’s no fraud there will be no discovery this will get tossed.

                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                    Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

                    Mask. No ID, no warrant, honestly no idea if it’s just a Halloween costume. But GET IN MY CAR.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                      Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

                      Mask. No ID, no warrant, honestly no idea if it’s just a Halloween costume. But GET IN MY CAR.

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                      @89th said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                      Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

                      Mask. No ID, no warrant, honestly no idea if it’s just a Halloween costume. But GET IN MY CAR.

                      I'm genuinely surprised that more conservatives aren't horrified by this. The ends justify the means, I guess.

                      I was only joking

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                        #270

                        You mean the ones worried about FEMA camps?

                        That was last season. They brought in an entirely new set of writers this season.

                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              Why does he refer to himself in the 3rd person, including his employment title and his middle initial, are there other Donald Trumps out there we need to not be confused about? And back to this issue... I remember as a younger adult in the 2000s how I was a GWB fan and how the media was nearly unanimous in their critiquing of Bush, his policies, his speaking blunders... oh how nice the left had it, they didn't even realize how much worse it could get.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                Why does he refer to himself in the 3rd person, including his employment title and his middle initial, are there other Donald Trumps out there we need to not be confused about? And back to this issue... I remember as a younger adult in the 2000s how I was a GWB fan and how the media was nearly unanimous in their critiquing of Bush, his policies, his speaking blunders... oh how nice the left had it, they didn't even realize how much worse it could get.

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                                @89th said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                Why does he refer to himself in the 3rd person, including his employment title and his middle initial, are there other Donald Trumps out there we need to not be confused about?

                                That's what people whose identity is tied up in being famous often do. It means they read a lot of press about themselves, and begin to adopt the language of the people who write and talk about them.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  @89th said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                  Why does he refer to himself in the 3rd person, including his employment title and his middle initial, are there other Donald Trumps out there we need to not be confused about?

                                  That's what people whose identity is tied up in being famous often do. It means they read a lot of press about themselves, and begin to adopt the language of the people who write and talk about them.

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                                  #275

                                  @Horace

                                  Possibly, although more often than not it’s an attention getting device employed by people, usually males, who are incorrigibly full of themselves.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                                    @Horace

                                    Possibly, although more often than not it’s an attention getting device employed by people, usually males, who are incorrigibly full of themselves.

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                                    @Renauda said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                    @Horace

                                    Possibly, although more often than not it’s an attention getting device employed by people, usually males, who are incorrigibly full of themselves.

                                    The fact that they’re full of themselves is a given in any case. The most famous example of the third person self reference was Deion Sanders. He may have all but invented the practice.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      No idea who Sanders was/is so I looked him up on Wiki.

                                      Yeah, he would for sure fit the profile.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Texas banned race and gender discussions in universities now a philosophy professor is being told to drop a Plato reading from his course or be reassigned.

                                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                          bureaucracies are what they are, and this may be as stupid as it seems. But the implication of a blanket ban on mentioning or teaching Plato in philosophy courses throughout TX universities is surely an exaggeration.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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