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Glad the free speech folks are in charge

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #258

    I’m old enough to remember when Republicans sued Biden over this.

    “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

    • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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    • HoraceH Online
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      Horace
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      #259

      doxing is, as far as I know, disapproved of by both tribes.

      The self righteous antifa sympathizers being the most prominent group who like it.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        #260

        If you click through to the source complainer, one Ms Loomer, there doesn’t seem to be much of any doxxing going on. Rather it’s just saying where ICE is conducting raids.

        Makes sense given that, if you’re worried about ICE you just want to avoid them, and also they seem to wear masks and not display name tags. It would be pretty hard to doxx individual agents in practice.

        “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

        • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #261

          I assume ‘ICE tracking sites are getting people killed’ is a lie? I haven’t followed too closely but I’m guessing that had an ICE agent been killed I would have been blamed by Trump and his cabinet along with everyone else who didn’t vote for him. Like what happened with Charlie Kirk (who by the way didn’t turn 32 today).

          “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

          • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            #262

            Yeah took some screenshots. It’s exactly what you’d think it is. People reporting ICE activity in real time.

            IMG_8316.png IMG_8317.png IMG_8318.png

            “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

            • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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            • HoraceH Online
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              Horace
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              #263

              I'll just assume that there's no actual doxing, for the sake of argument. As far as I'm aware, this conversation during Biden's term, stopped with "private businesses can do whatever they want". There was much prancing around misconceptions of free speech. As it happens, Bondi wants to brag about outreach, where the Biden admin kept it under wraps. I'm not a fan of government leaning on social media sites to moderate content, but I'm sure there's a legal and ethical conversation to be had when these social media groups are being used to organize efforts to harass law enforcement and make it more difficult for them to do their jobs.

              Education is extremely important.

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                I'll just assume that there's no actual doxing, for the sake of argument. As far as I'm aware, this conversation during Biden's term, stopped with "private businesses can do whatever they want". There was much prancing around misconceptions of free speech. As it happens, Bondi wants to brag about outreach, where the Biden admin kept it under wraps. I'm not a fan of government leaning on social media sites to moderate content, but I'm sure there's a legal and ethical conversation to be had when these social media groups are being used to organize efforts to harass law enforcement and make it more difficult for them to do their jobs.

                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #264

                @Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                I'm not a fan of government leaning on social media sites to moderate content, but I'm sure there's a legal and ethical conversation to be had when these social media groups are being used to organize efforts to harass law enforcement and make it more difficult for them to do their jobs spread misinformation that can result in increased deaths in real human beings.

                Agreed but I’d still prefer they respect the platform’s independence even if the stakes are material.

                “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  #265

                  Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    You’re all off base completely there’s no fraud there will be no discovery this will get tossed.

                    Long before the free speech crowd threatened to investigate her for her speech, Nate Silver was giving pundits a hard time for criticizing her so harshly. He wants outlier polls to be published and wants pollsters to have the courage to publish their true results and not sit on them if they’re not in line with everyone else’s. That sort of censorship doesn’t lead to a good result.

                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nycJ Online
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                    said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                    You’re all off base completely there’s no fraud there will be no discovery this will get tossed.

                    “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                    • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote last edited by
                      #267

                      “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                      • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

                        89th8 Online
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                        Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

                        Mask. No ID, no warrant, honestly no idea if it’s just a Halloween costume. But GET IN MY CAR.

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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                          Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

                          Mask. No ID, no warrant, honestly no idea if it’s just a Halloween costume. But GET IN MY CAR.

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                          @89th said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                          Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

                          Mask. No ID, no warrant, honestly no idea if it’s just a Halloween costume. But GET IN MY CAR.

                          I'm genuinely surprised that more conservatives aren't horrified by this. The ends justify the means, I guess.

                          I was only joking

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
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                            You mean the ones worried about FEMA camps?

                            That was last season. They brought in an entirely new set of writers this season.

                            “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

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