Mr. Clemency
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@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
By the way, why does the Fauci's pardon backdate to 2014?
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-has-biden-pardoned-anthony-fauci/
Joe Biden left it until the last minute to issue a pre-emptive pardon of Anthony Fauci for any offence committed since 2014 in his work on ‘the White House Coronavirus Task Force or the White House Covid-19 Response Team, or as Chief Medical Advisor to the President.’ Yet surely Covid began in 2019, not 2014?
The significance of 2014 is that this was when the Obama administration responded to anxiety among some scientists about a series of experiments that made influenza viruses potentially more dangerous to people – by banning federal funding for any such gain-of-function experiments.
Yet from June 2014 money flowed from Fauci’s National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases to support experimentswhich led to gain-of-functionin Wuhan in China via an organisation called the EcoHealth Alliance. There, SARS-like viruses ‘gained’ the function in certain experiments of becoming 10,000 times more infectious in humanised mice. (Both the NIH and EcoHealth Alliance have denied any wrongdoing.)
‘So let me get this straight: Fauci’s pardon goes all the way back to 2014, the year he started funding the labs that eventually helped create the chaos we’ve all been living through,’ wrote the science journalist Dr Simon Goddek on hearing news of the pardon.
Fauci hotly denied to Congress that he had ever funded gain of function experiments in Wuhan, telling senator Rand Paul ‘You do not know what you are talking about’. Heclaimed that one particular narrow definition of gain of function did not apply in this case because it did not include animal viruses, only human ones. Besides, the EcoHealth president, Peter Daszak, wrote an email in 2016 to Fauci’s colleague saying ‘we are very happy to hear that our gain of function research funding pause has been lifted’ (my emphasis).
Senator Paul was pulling no punches on Monday: ‘If there was ever any doubt as to who bears responsibility for the Covid pandemic, Biden’s pardon of Fauci forever seals the deal. As Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee I will not rest until the entire truth of the coverup is exposed. Fauci’s pardon will only serve as an accelerant to pierce the veil of deception. Ignominious! Anthony Fauci will go down in history as the first government scientist to be preemptively pardoned for a crime.’
Had he been prosecuted by the Trump administration, Fauci could have been accused of at least three offences: funding research that was forbidden, some of which may have led to a terrible pandemic, lying to Congress about it and covering up evidence to obscure the origin of Covid.
His emails and testimonies relating to the early months of the pandemic appear to reveal a consistent pattern of trying to deflect attention from the possibility that the outbreak began with an accident in the very Wuhan laboratory his agency had had funded. In those early weeks, remember, people thought the epidemic would probably blow over and be soon forgotten rather than pored over by investigators for years.
A few days before the pardon was announced, Peter Daszak and EcoHealth were officially debarred from receiving future federal funding on the recommendation of Congress. Daszak was fired by EcoHealth at the same time, perhaps so he could receive severance payments, which resigning would not allow.
There is something approaching full-scale panic in the American scientific bureaucracy at what the Trump administration may reveal in the coming months about what went on in Wuhan with the support of American grants and American expertise.
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Burn it to the ground.
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Yeah but he backdated Milley to Jan 1, 2014 also.
Looks more like a template than a conspiracy.
As I said above.
When you shake someone's deep sense of self-worth, leaving a scar in their ego, they will persistently try to diminish you through petty arguments & obsessive captious criticism of your actions, just to soothe the wound.
- Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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@jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:
Biden: That’s right, bitches!
Trump: Hold my McDonalds Supersize Coke
Yesterday even the J6 defendants who assaulted police officers.
Today a global drug dealer.
As long as you're playing "What's worse?"
OK. What's worse J6 cop assaulters or someone who killed two FBI agents?
How about someone who commuted the sentences of ACTUAL Senate building bombers?
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@George-K we need to wait he’s just getting started.
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@Horace said in Mr. Clemency:
I think 2014 was chosen for a reason, for at least one of the pardoned. The rest got 2014 to make it seem like, nothing to see here, 2014 is just how it's done.
If that’s true, and who knows, probably Hunter.
I doubt anything NIH did with respect to GoF grants was illegal. It’s a big bureaucracy with rules, many checkpoints, and lots of lawyers. Grant making at the NIH is a very formal process (I know because we adopted it a number of years ago). Rules for grants, who’s eligible, requirements and constraints, are written by departments and reviewed by lawyers.
If we’re worried the NIH was insufficently careful in funding GoF research then it’s worth pursuing an investigation just to figure that out. That’s far more important than fantasizing about arresting an 80 year old man.
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@jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:
Yeah but he backdated Milley to Jan 1, 2014 also.
At which point he was commanding the third army stationed in Ft Hood Tx.
By 2015 he had been moved to another command at Ft Liberty in NC.
As far as I know neither are biolabs researching viruses.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
Have all the charged been tried?
Yes.
From the White House info
(a) commute the sentences of the following individuals convicted of offenses related to events that occurred at or near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, to time served as of January 20, 2025:(list of names)
(b) grant a full, complete and unconditional pardon to all other individuals convicted of offenses related to events that occurred at or near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021;
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Random thought. What if someone robbed a bank in the area right around the time of the riots. Maybe they could come up with some creative excuse as to how it was related to the riots and then claim the pardon applied to them.
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@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
I mean the Jan 6th folks were charged...
Innocent until proven guilty.
Have all the charged been tried?
Not sure, I could google the stats, but I know a bunch have been tried and convicted and are (or were) in jail.
Including someone (Dempsey) who stomped on police officers' heads, struck officers with a metal pole, attacked with broken pieces of glass, sprayed pepper spray into a cop's eyes after another mobster pulled the cop's gas mask off. He plead guilty to all of this btw. Including someone who orchestrated a plot to stop the peaceful transfer of power (Tarrio). Including someone who used a riot shield to break through a window to allow the mob in. Including someone who stole (robbery? larceny?) items from senator offices.
I guess google says there have been over 900 convictions (out of 1400 charged).
As mentioned above, 15 get their sentences commuted, the other 885 or however many get full pardons for their convicted crimes. Cool.
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@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
I mean the Jan 6th folks were charged and/or convicted of a crime. No such thing for Fauci.
false equivalence is part and parcel with Repbulicans. You can do better than that George.
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@taiwan_girl said in Mr. Clemency:
Random thought. What if someone robbed a bank in the area right around the time of the riots. Maybe they could come up with some creative excuse as to how it was related to the riots and then claim the pardon applied to them.
better yet, I believe I now have the full right to visit the Rotunda and smear my feces all over its walls as well as erect a hangman's noose outside with my megaphone shouting "hang JD Vance"
This country is getting greater every day. I love America!
