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Mr. Clemency

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  • CopperC Offline
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    #148

    Someone take a selfie!

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    • HoraceH Online
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      Horace
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      #149

      I was told the J6 pardons would be on a case by case basis. I guess the ones who aren't pardoned will be case by case. I guess that makes sense. Way more prosecutions of nothing burger offenses than prosecutions of real assaults and vandalism.

      I will trust the media to inform us of the scariest people included in these 1500 pardons.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        I was told the J6 pardons would be on a case by case basis. I guess the ones who aren't pardoned will be case by case. I guess that makes sense. Way more prosecutions of nothing burger offenses than prosecutions of real assaults and vandalism.

        I will trust the media to inform us of the scariest people included in these 1500 pardons.

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        George K
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        #150

        @Horace said in Mr. Clemency:

        I was told the J6 pardons would be on a case by case basis.

        Somewhere, I read that that might be for the "violent" offenders.

        I will trust the media to inform us of the scariest people included in these 1500 pardons.

        Bless you for your restraint and trust in the media!

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          I trust the media to try to stir outrage. Little else.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            I trust the media to try to stir outrage. Little else.

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            George K
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            #152

            @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

            I trust the media to try to stir outrage. Little else.

            I'll raise a hand arm glass to that!

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              #153

              The Trump Middle-Finger Tour begins.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG George K

                BTW: Kinsinger said (two weeks ago) he would not accept a pardon because it makes him "look guilty."

                "These are my principles, and if you don't like them, I have others."

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                #154

                @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                BTW: Kinsinger said (two weeks ago) he would not accept a pardon because it makes him "look guilty."

                "These are my principles, and if you don't like them, I have others."

                Is it possible to refuse a pardon?

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                  #155

                  Especially if it is not specific to you, but pardons a class that you happen to be a member of.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #156

                    Biden DOJ: Fauci admits guilt.

                    https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/01/20/donald-trump-inauguration-day-news-updates-analysis/fauci-biden-pardon-00199293

                    After President Joe Biden issued an eleventh-hour preemptive pardon for Dr. Anthony Fauci, the former chief medical adviser to the president told POLITICO he has “committed no crime” but appreciates the pardon.

                    The long-time National Institutes of Health scientist drew ire from Republicans for the handling of the Covid-19 pandemic and was expected to be targeted with legal action under the incoming Trump administration, as several Republican congresspeople and allies of the president-elect — including Steve Bannon, Trump’s former chief strategist — have threatened retribution.

                    In a statement to POLITICO outlining his service at the NIH, including advising seven presidents, from Ronald Reagan to Biden, Fauci said he’s been the subject of politically motivated threats of investigation and prosecution.

                    “Let me be perfectly clear: I have committed no crime and there are no possible grounds for any allegation or threat of criminal investigation or prosecution of me,” he said.

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      It unrings the bell and they know it. It's a bullshit response.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        #158

                        I mean the Jan 6th folks were charged and/or convicted of a crime. No such thing for Fauci.

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                        • HoraceH Online
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                          Horace
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                          We don't have clarity about Fauci. We have clarity about Jan 6.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Biden: That’s right, bitches!

                            Trump: Hold my McDonalds Supersize Coke

                            Yesterday even the J6 defendants who assaulted police officers.

                            Today a global drug dealer.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • George KG George K

                              By the way, why does the Fauci's pardon backdate to 2014?

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                              @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                              By the way, why does the Fauci's pardon backdate to 2014?

                              https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-has-biden-pardoned-anthony-fauci/

                              Joe Biden left it until the last minute to issue a pre-emptive pardon of Anthony Fauci for any offence committed since 2014 in his work on ‘the White House Coronavirus Task Force or the White House Covid-19 Response Team, or as Chief Medical Advisor to the President.’ Yet surely Covid began in 2019, not 2014?

                              The significance of 2014 is that this was when the Obama administration responded to anxiety among some scientists about a series of experiments that made influenza viruses potentially more dangerous to people – by banning federal funding for any such gain-of-function experiments.

                              Yet from June 2014 money flowed from Fauci’s National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases to support experimentswhich led to gain-of-functionin Wuhan in China via an organisation called the EcoHealth Alliance. There, SARS-like viruses ‘gained’ the function in certain experiments of becoming 10,000 times more infectious in humanised mice. (Both the NIH and EcoHealth Alliance have denied any wrongdoing.)

                              ‘So let me get this straight: Fauci’s pardon goes all the way back to 2014, the year he started funding the labs that eventually helped create the chaos we’ve all been living through,’ wrote the science journalist Dr Simon Goddek on hearing news of the pardon.

                              Fauci hotly denied to Congress that he had ever funded gain of function experiments in Wuhan, telling senator Rand Paul ‘You do not know what you are talking about’. Heclaimed that one particular narrow definition of gain of function did not apply in this case because it did not include animal viruses, only human ones. Besides, the EcoHealth president, Peter Daszak, wrote an email in 2016 to Fauci’s colleague saying ‘we are very happy to hear that our gain of function research funding pause has been lifted’ (my emphasis).

                              Senator Paul was pulling no punches on Monday: ‘If there was ever any doubt as to who bears responsibility for the Covid pandemic, Biden’s pardon of Fauci forever seals the deal. As Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee I will not rest until the entire truth of the coverup is exposed. Fauci’s pardon will only serve as an accelerant to pierce the veil of deception. Ignominious! Anthony Fauci will go down in history as the first government scientist to be preemptively pardoned for a crime.’

                              Had he been prosecuted by the Trump administration, Fauci could have been accused of at least three offences: funding research that was forbidden, some of which may have led to a terrible pandemic, lying to Congress about it and covering up evidence to obscure the origin of Covid.

                              His emails and testimonies relating to the early months of the pandemic appear to reveal a consistent pattern of trying to deflect attention from the possibility that the outbreak began with an accident in the very Wuhan laboratory his agency had had funded. In those early weeks, remember, people thought the epidemic would probably blow over and be soon forgotten rather than pored over by investigators for years.

                              A few days before the pardon was announced, Peter Daszak and EcoHealth were officially debarred from receiving future federal funding on the recommendation of Congress. Daszak was fired by EcoHealth at the same time, perhaps so he could receive severance payments, which resigning would not allow.

                              There is something approaching full-scale panic in the American scientific bureaucracy at what the Trump administration may reveal in the coming months about what went on in Wuhan with the support of American grants and American expertise.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                Burn it to the ground. 🔥

                                The Brad

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                                  #163

                                  Yeah but he backdated Milley to Jan 1, 2014 also.

                                  Looks more like a template than a conspiracy.

                                  As I said above.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Yeah but he backdated Milley to Jan 1, 2014 also.

                                    Looks more like a template than a conspiracy.

                                    As I said above.

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                                    George K
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                                    @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                    Yeah but he backdated Milley to Jan 1, 2014 also.

                                    Looks more like a template than a conspiracy.

                                    As I said above.

                                    Just more sloppiness by Joe Biden Biden's staffers, right?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Biden: That’s right, bitches!

                                      Trump: Hold my McDonalds Supersize Coke

                                      Yesterday even the J6 defendants who assaulted police officers.

                                      Today a global drug dealer.

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                                      George K
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                                      #165

                                      @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                      Biden: That’s right, bitches!

                                      Trump: Hold my McDonalds Supersize Coke

                                      Yesterday even the J6 defendants who assaulted police officers.

                                      Today a global drug dealer.

                                      As long as you're playing "What's worse?"

                                      OK. What's worse J6 cop assaulters or someone who killed two FBI agents?

                                      How about someone who commuted the sentences of ACTUAL Senate building bombers?

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • HoraceH Online
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                                        Horace
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                                        I think 2014 was chosen for a reason, for at least one of the pardoned. The rest got 2014 to make it seem like, nothing to see here, 2014 is just how it's done.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Online
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                                          I bet Biden was thinking mostly, during Trump's inaugural speech, about his pardons going down as Trump spoke. He must have been so pleased with himself.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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