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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Liz is a pariah. She pissed all over the GOP and now her new buddies have found she's useless. Since MSDNC is exploding, even that revenue stream is dying.

    Pardon me, while I sob uncontrollably for her plight. πŸ˜€πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜πŸ˜†πŸ˜…πŸ€£πŸ˜‚

    β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      Or she was principled and put country over party. Depends which news website you're reading I guess.

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        I suppose we get news from paraphrased tweets these days. If you look at Cheney's full statement, it reflects her point that a DOJ going after an Congressional investigation (which by the way, was looking into the assault on the Capitol) is unprecedented and such a political motivation could be subjected to sanctions (although I'm not sure how that would work... Congress punishing the DOJ?).

        Anyway, Cheney and Thompson have led the effort to not destroy evidence, in fact they have called for the National Archives to properly preserve all content from the Jan 6 committee as well as Jack Smith's investigation. They are important historical records for the country after the assault on the Capitol and the Constitution. But again... "my team red, so no bad", but if the colors were reversed and it was Obama doing this...

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        • HoraceH Online
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          Horace
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          It's not my impression that ratings bomb Jan 6 hearings were conducted in a fair manner.

          Education is extremely important.

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            You know what would be a 4D chess move, if Trump ordered his own Jan 6th hearings, you know... because no one loves the constitution more than him, and the surprise results show......HUNTER BIDEN leading the assault!

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            • 89th8 89th

              Or she was principled and put country over party. Depends which news website you're reading I guess.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

              Or she was principled and put country over party

              Her group deleted federal records.

              Her group edited (with the help of Hollywood soundtracks) videos to malign a senator.

              THat's all I need to know.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                Or she was principled and put country over party

                Her group deleted federal records.

                Her group edited (with the help of Hollywood soundtracks) videos to malign a senator.

                THat's all I need to know.

                89th8 Offline
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                #10

                @George-K said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                Or she was principled and put country over party

                Her group deleted federal records.

                Her group edited (with the help of Hollywood soundtracks) videos to malign a senator.

                THat's all I need to know.

                Which federal records? I haven't tracked this very closely. I know people say she did, but I haven't seen the evidence for it. I know there is evidence of her pushing to keep all records archived properly.

                Which senator was maligned? I'm not being sarcastic. I know they edited videos together in order to show a summary of what happened that day. Ironically, it seems like it's needed more than ever as folks focus more on a soundtrack than the assault on the capitol.

                It reminds me of focusing on Walz half a dozen mis-statements as if that is worthy of attention and ignoring the 30,573 lies Trump told in 4 years.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  @George-K said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                  @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                  Or she was principled and put country over party

                  Her group deleted federal records.

                  Her group edited (with the help of Hollywood soundtracks) videos to malign a senator.

                  THat's all I need to know.

                  Which federal records? I haven't tracked this very closely. I know people say she did, but I haven't seen the evidence for it. I know there is evidence of her pushing to keep all records archived properly.

                  Which senator was maligned? I'm not being sarcastic. I know they edited videos together in order to show a summary of what happened that day. Ironically, it seems like it's needed more than ever as folks focus more on a soundtrack than the assault on the capitol.

                  It reminds me of focusing on Walz half a dozen mis-statements as if that is worthy of attention and ignoring the 30,573 lies Trump told in 4 years.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #11

                  @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                  Which federal records? I haven't tracked this very closely. I know people say she did, but I haven't seen the evidence for it. I know there is evidence of her pushing to keep all records archived properly.

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/secret-service-deleted-text-messages-jan-6-previous-day-homeland-secur-rcna38332

                  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-service-texts-house-january-6-committee-federal-records-act/

                  Which senator was maligned?

                  The video that was shown in the goup's hearings showed Josh Hawley running out of the building, much to the laughter of the participants and audio.

                  Link to video

                  More in this thread.

                  https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/268064

                  ETA: And here:

                  https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/237579

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    89th
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                    That video seems fine to me. Presents the facts. No soundtrack. I think it showed Hawley's feelings of "yes let's protest!" to the reality of the impact of what Hawley and Trump did and the seriousness of the Capitol invasion.

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                      The fact that it makes Hawley look cowardly is the point. He was one of the LAST people to leave the Capitol building.

                      But for some reason, they didn't say that.

                      Would you care to offer an opinion as to why the group refused to seat members selected by the GOP leadership, but only those who the Democrats approved of?

                      Look, I'm not defending the riot, by any stretch. But, this was pure theater. Edited, with evidence hidden, testimony suppressed and messages deleted.

                      And it stinks.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @George-K said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                        @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                        Or she was principled and put country over party

                        Her group deleted federal records.

                        Her group edited (with the help of Hollywood soundtracks) videos to malign a senator.

                        THat's all I need to know.

                        Which federal records? I haven't tracked this very closely. I know people say she did, but I haven't seen the evidence for it. I know there is evidence of her pushing to keep all records archived properly.

                        Which senator was maligned? I'm not being sarcastic. I know they edited videos together in order to show a summary of what happened that day. Ironically, it seems like it's needed more than ever as folks focus more on a soundtrack than the assault on the capitol.

                        It reminds me of focusing on Walz half a dozen mis-statements as if that is worthy of attention and ignoring the 30,573 lies Trump told in 4 years.

                        HoraceH Online
                        HoraceH Online
                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                        It reminds me of focusing on Walz half a dozen mis-statements as if that is worthy of attention and ignoring the 30,573 lies Trump told in 4 years.

                        Too soon. Most of us are still processing our emotions after being immersed in Tim "big fat liar" Walz's relentless stream of lies during the campaign. It is only small consolation that Harris definitely lost the presidency because of the liar she chose as her running mate. Our wounds need time to heal, and please respect our space as we do so.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by George K
                          #15

                          Carlson hypes it up, but the longer video shows the context.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • HoraceH Online
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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            Thank you @George-K for finding that. Real journalism lives.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • 89th8 Offline
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                              89th
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                              @George-K I am absolutely shocked the committee didn't show videos of the peaceful parts of the day.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                @George-K I am absolutely shocked the committee didn't show videos of the peaceful parts of the day.

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                                @George-K I am absolutely shocked the committee didn't show videos of the peaceful parts of the day.

                                I'm sure you are.

                                Wanna talk about deleted text messages that the IG found? How about Cassidy Hutchinson's ever-changing wheelgate testimony?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  #19

                                  I'm happy if they look into how the text messages were deleted. Odds are it was done as a device replacement program and not maliciously, but they should at least find out if they can. Honestly I'd be glad if Trump held his own Jan 6th investigation, but that might be a little awkward for him.

                                  I'm appreciative there was a committee to investigate such a horrendous act against the law and constitution, in the first place. Get all the facts out there, let the sunlight be the disinfectant, let history have an accurate capture of what happened that day. If the committee was 98% accurate and 2% bad...better than nothing. Way better than nothing. You are focusing on the 2%, not the 98%. A similar theme of Walz vs Trump and misstatements (actually that is more like 0.03% to 99.97%.

                                  Believe it or not I'm on your side, I want the truth to be known and documented. I see the forest whereas I think you see the one dead tree.

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                                    Anti-anti-Trump is the gateway drug to pro-Trump.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      I suppose we get news from paraphrased tweets these days. If you look at Cheney's full statement, it reflects her point that a DOJ going after an Congressional investigation (which by the way, was looking into the assault on the Capitol) is unprecedented and such a political motivation could be subjected to sanctions (although I'm not sure how that would work... Congress punishing the DOJ?).

                                      Anyway, Cheney and Thompson have led the effort to not destroy evidence, in fact they have called for the National Archives to properly preserve all content from the Jan 6 committee as well as Jack Smith's investigation. They are important historical records for the country after the assault on the Capitol and the Constitution. But again... "my team red, so no bad", but if the colors were reversed and it was Obama doing this...

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                                      Anyway, Cheney and Thompson have led the effort to not destroy evidence, in fact they have called for the National Archives to properly preserve all content from the Jan 6 committee as well as Jack Smith's investigation.

                                      Has Loudermilk gotten the records which he requested?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
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                                        , I want the truth to be known and documented. I see the forest whereas I think you see the one dead tree.

                                        Why was there no cross-examination of the "witnesses?"

                                        Why was a Hollywood producer hired to make the video?

                                        Why were "interviews" held in private?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                        89th8 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • George KG George K

                                          @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                                          Anyway, Cheney and Thompson have led the effort to not destroy evidence, in fact they have called for the National Archives to properly preserve all content from the Jan 6 committee as well as Jack Smith's investigation.

                                          Has Loudermilk gotten the records which he requested?

                                          89th8 Offline
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                                          #23

                                          @George-K said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                                          @89th said in Liz Cheney Warns:

                                          Anyway, Cheney and Thompson have led the effort to not destroy evidence, in fact they have called for the National Archives to properly preserve all content from the Jan 6 committee as well as Jack Smith's investigation.

                                          Has Loudermilk gotten the records which he requested?

                                          You have to do my research, I am not generally following this news (or most news, if I can help it). As far as I know, Loudermilk said records were deleted, the committee so no they weren't, and Loudermilk then researched what steps are needed to change your own last name.

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