UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot
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@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Anyone think it’s strange that this fucking moron was eating at a McDonald’s?
Not really
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@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
That’s true. It’s the same crowd that posts about oppression from phones made by child slaves.
That argument doesn't really play out. Organized rebellions, radicals, terrorists and crackpots have a lot in common with everyone else in that they aren't universally consistent with living out their values.
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I get his position. It is informed by a situation much worse than most people ever deal with, but we’ve dealt with similar runarounds - a different and contradictory story every time you talk to them. It’s incredibly frustrating even when it’s relatively minor health issues. Couple extreme suffering with it and one can understand his anger. Still, not how he expressed it. This kid had a top education and could have chosen to fight within the law.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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Agreed, and keeping the IDs and gun, it's as if he wanted to be caught, but also wanted to be snarky by leaving his backpack in Central Park with the monopoly money. Part of me thinks he snapped a bit after his back surgery and/or meds, or mushrooms. Or maybe watching too much Mr. Robot or other TV shows that glorify fighting capitalism.
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@89th said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
I also wonder, if he kept the gun because he was researching who his next CEO victim might be. I know he was on his laptop in the McDonalds when they approached. All speculation of course.
Maybe he was researching how old you need to be to no longer qualify for a Happy Meal, or how to work the over-complicated drinks machine.
It doesn't really matter. He's just another guy who thinks he can make a difference by killing somebody. Obviously, the only difference he's really made is to the family of the dead CEO.
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Was Donald working a shift when the guy was arrested?
Me/rry/Christmas
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@LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Was Donald working a shift when the guy was arrested?
He was cleaning out the bathrooms at the time otherwise he'd have taken him out single-handed.
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The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
I get his position. It is informed by a situation much worse than most people ever deal with, but we’ve dealt with similar runarounds - a different and contradictory story every time you talk to them. It’s incredibly frustrating even when it’s relatively minor health issues. Couple extreme suffering with it and one can understand his anger. Still, not how he expressed it. This kid had a top education and could have chosen to fight within the law.
My thoughts as well.
@George-K You saw Glaucomflecken's, right?
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He's right, of course. I have to say I've had United at different times and never had any issues, although when I had to use their mail order pharmacy it was pretty bad. I have United now for my Medicare supplementary with no issues over 4 years, but I haven't done anything particularly unusual. But I know a lot of people who have Medicare Advantage coverage (read HMO/PPO) who have had, including my brother who had to fight for his needed treatments.
In the case of the shooter, his mother had to jump through a lot of hoops to get treatments, yes, but it appears that none of them worked very well. Was she denied treatment that would have been effective? No idea. Still, it is possible to have a medical condition there is no effective treatment for. This is not the fault of the insurer. It is difficult to get research funding for diseases that affect 1 in 100,000 people.
If what he says about UHC denying claims and paying for those denials is correct, that should be looked at very carefully. But the other things involved should be looked at too, mostly who is their patient population and what coverage do they have? Do they offer inexpensive catastrophic coverage only plans that do not cover routine healthcare? There's a lot of variety out there. It's not enough to just point at UHC and say they are bad.
