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  • George KG George K

    Why would President-Elect Trump pardon Blago? Reportedly, he considered it, but didn't.

    Just for some perspective, Bill Clinton pardoned about 140 people on his last day, including his brother.

    Also, for perspective, he commuted the sentences of the Senate bombers.

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    @George-K said in Pardoned:

    Why would President-Elect Trump pardon Blago? Reportedly, he considered it, but didn't.

    He didn't pardon him, he commuted his sentence. My bad.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • George KG George K

      If I read that pardon correctly, the entire Ukrainian grift is pardoned as well. So he pardoned himself as well.

      Son of a bitch!

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      @George-K said in Pardoned:

      If I read that pardon correctly, the entire Ukrainian grift is pardoned as well. So he pardoned himself as well.

      Son of a bitch!

      Probably not a bad idea. But the claim that Hunter was singled out only because he is my son and not admitting that Trump was similarly singled out is galling hypocrisy.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG George K

        @jon-nyc said in Pardoned:

        But if you want perfect comparison, neither Uday nor Qusay Trump were convicted of anything (yet) so he didn’t even have the opportunity.

        They weren't convicted, let alone indicted. So, it's far from a "perfect comparison."

        The various war criminals?

        You're talking about Obama, who ordered an extra-judical assassination of a US citizen? He wasn't indicted or convicted either.

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        @George-K said in Pardoned:

        @jon-nyc said in Pardoned:

        The various war criminals?

        You're talking about Obama, who ordered an extra-judical assassination of a US citizen? He wasn't indicted or convicted either.

        No, Obama didn't pardon any war criminals to my knowledge. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, which is certainly possible. The last days of the Obama administration are a bit of a blur, as most of the news coverage at the time was about Trump's incoming administration.

        I'm referring to Trump's pardoning of Eddie Gallagher, Clint Lawrence, Mathew Goldstein, and four Blackwater mercenaries, all of which murdered civilians. The soldiers were convicted by military courts and the Blackwater mercenaries were charged and convicted by GWB's DoJ.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          I was referring to Obama not having been convicted of extra-judicial killings and not having been convicted. Of course, now he's immune to prosecution since he was POTUS at the time.

          President-Elect Trump also pardoned Jared's dad.

          Regarding Jim Jordan's comment, implicit in it is obvious that Hunter committed crimes while Joe was in office. And, there are documents to support that on his spectacular laptop. Joe was implicated in at least one of those crimes. But Joe's gone in about 60 days, so who cares any more?

          That should have been obvious.

          Saw this.

          Remember, when Republicans screw up, it's the story.
          When Democrats screw up, Republicans' reactions is the story.

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            The hot rumor...Hunter informed his dad about a month ago he was writing a tell-all book (casting Hunter in the best light, of course), and the book would implicate the Big Guy and other family members.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Away
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              It was so freaking obvious that he would do this once he was no longer the candidate.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                And that is the source of the outrage. Clinton, Bush, Obama, and yes, President-Elect Trump , never made statements that they would (or would not) pardon someone.

                POTATUS repeated it many times that he would not.

                "No one is above the law!" he preened, while showing us that, indeed, his son is.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  What's the best guess that Biden will pre-emptively pardon his brother, Jim?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Again, we as a nation have come to expect and accept this type of behavior from politicians. Until we decide not to anymore it will worsen.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Funny that Biden is framing it as a political persecution.

                      The precedent is set.

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                      "Thank you, Mr. President!"

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        Funny that Biden is framing it as a political persecution.

                        The precedent is set.

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                        "Thank you, Mr. President!"

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                        @George-K said in Pardoned:

                        Funny that Biden is framing it as a political persecution.

                        The precedent is set.

                        Biden didn't set the precedent. The reason given for Paul Manafort's pardon was 'The greatest witch hunt in American history'

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @George-K said in Pardoned:

                          Funny that Biden is framing it as a political persecution.

                          The precedent is set.

                          Biden didn't set the precedent. The reason given for Paul Manafort's pardon was 'The greatest witch hunt in American history'

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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Pardoned:

                          Biden didn't set the precedent. The reason given for Paul Manafort's pardon was 'The greatest witch hunt in American history'

                          Fair enough.

                          Biden legitimized it.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            It was so freaking obvious that he would do this once he was no longer the candidate.

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                            @Mik said in Pardoned:

                            It was so freaking obvious that he would do this once he was no longer the candidate.

                            Agreed. It never in doubt. It was always just a question of timing.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              He should never have made all those prior comments denying he'd ever do it, but there you go, this is pretty much standard lying practice.

                              The whole process is just begging to get abused.

                              I was only joking

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                                What was he going to say? ‘Yeah, I’ll pardon him at some point’? ‘No comment’?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • MikM Away
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                                  Pretty much anything other than a stone guarantee that he wouldn't. 😄

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    He should never have made all those prior comments denying he'd ever do it, but there you go, this is pretty much standard lying practice.

                                    The whole process is just begging to get abused.

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Pardoned:

                                    He should never have made all those prior comments denying he'd ever do it,

                                    Biden is at the DGAF stage of his career.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Pardoned:

                                      He should never have made all those prior comments denying he'd ever do it,

                                      Biden is at the DGAF stage of his career.

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                                      @George-K said in Pardoned:

                                      Biden is at the DGAF stage of his career.

                                      So am I, but I don't get the chance to do that kind of stuff.

                                      I'm sure it will happen to all of us eventually

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @jon-nyc said in Pardoned:

                                        But if you want perfect comparison, neither Uday nor Qusay Trump were convicted of anything (yet) so he didn’t even have the opportunity.

                                        They weren't convicted, let alone indicted. So, it's far from a "perfect comparison."

                                        The various war criminals?

                                        You're talking about Obama, who ordered an extra-judical assassination of a US citizen? He wasn't indicted or convicted either.

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                                        @George-K

                                        You're talking about Obama, who ordered an extra-judical assassination of a US citizen? He wasn't indicted or convicted either.

                                        For all intents and purposes, I seem to think that Al-Awlaki had already de facto renounced his US citizenship and declared war against the US via his terrorist acts against American assets and citizens. He was, in fact, quite proud of his terrorist actions and made no attempt to conceal his compliance in their execution. He was most vile and Obama rightly signed off on having him whacked with extreme prejudice. His progeny was merely collateral damage. Good riddance to the lot of them.

                                        Obama did what any good head of state would have done under the circumstances.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Interesting take.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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