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Hegseth: No women in combat roles

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    #10

    I wouldn't have a problem if they said no women in combat positions. It makes sense in my simple caveman brain. Men are stronger, the bond between soldiers I'd imagine is stronger in a brotherhood, you reduce the distractions of gender-based facilities or sex-based drama. I also think it's a man's job to protect. In any event... I think it comes down more to having the best fighters out there... keep the physical requirements high (and the same) for all who fight... we need the best when it comes to combat.

    (Much of this is slowly becoming moot... technology and remote warfare is taking over)

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    • 89th8 89th

      I wouldn't have a problem if they said no women in combat positions. It makes sense in my simple caveman brain. Men are stronger, the bond between soldiers I'd imagine is stronger in a brotherhood, you reduce the distractions of gender-based facilities or sex-based drama. I also think it's a man's job to protect. In any event... I think it comes down more to having the best fighters out there... keep the physical requirements high (and the same) for all who fight... we need the best when it comes to combat.

      (Much of this is slowly becoming moot... technology and remote warfare is taking over)

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      Jolly
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      @89th said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

      I wouldn't have a problem if they said no women in combat positions. It makes sense in my simple caveman brain. Men are stronger, the bond between soldiers I'd imagine is stronger in a brotherhood, you reduce the distractions of gender-based facilities or sex-based drama. I also think it's a man's job to protect. In any event... I think it comes down more to having the best fighters out there... keep the physical requirements high (and the same) for all who fight... we need the best when it comes to combat.

      (Much of this is slowly becoming moot... technology and remote warfare is taking over)

      Technology is great, but there is no substitute for boots on the ground.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @89th said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

        I wouldn't have a problem if they said no women in combat positions. It makes sense in my simple caveman brain. Men are stronger, the bond between soldiers I'd imagine is stronger in a brotherhood, you reduce the distractions of gender-based facilities or sex-based drama. I also think it's a man's job to protect. In any event... I think it comes down more to having the best fighters out there... keep the physical requirements high (and the same) for all who fight... we need the best when it comes to combat.

        (Much of this is slowly becoming moot... technology and remote warfare is taking over)

        Technology is great, but there is no substitute for boots on the ground.

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        jon-nyc
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        @Jolly said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

        Technology is great, but there is no substitute for boots on the ground.

        Hydrogen bombs in the sky?

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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          I have trouble understanding what in his background makes him qualified to be Sec of Defense.

          Yes, he was a very good combat veteran, but dont think that qualifies him to "run" a multi-billion dollar organization with hundreds or thousands of "employees".

          He was a relatively junior officer. Wasnt like he was a staff officer or higher.

          I dont think anybody would take best nurse in the hospital and based on this, think she was qualified to be the CEO of the hospital group.

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            I have trouble understanding what in his background makes him qualified to be Sec of Defense.

            Yes, he was a very good combat veteran, but dont think that qualifies him to "run" a multi-billion dollar organization with hundreds or thousands of "employees".

            He was a relatively junior officer. Wasnt like he was a staff officer or higher.

            I dont think anybody would take best nurse in the hospital and based on this, think she was qualified to be the CEO of the hospital group.

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            @taiwan_girl said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

            I have trouble understanding what in his background makes him qualified to be Sec of Defense.

            Yes, he was a very good combat veteran, but dont think that qualifies him to "run" a multi-billion dollar organization with hundreds or thousands of "employees".

            He was a relatively junior officer. Wasnt like he was a staff officer or higher.

            I dont think anybody would take best nurse in the hospital and based on this, think she was qualified to be the CEO of the hospital group.

            What do you believe the role of Sec Def is?

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @taiwan_girl said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

              I have trouble understanding what in his background makes him qualified to be Sec of Defense.

              Yes, he was a very good combat veteran, but dont think that qualifies him to "run" a multi-billion dollar organization with hundreds or thousands of "employees".

              He was a relatively junior officer. Wasnt like he was a staff officer or higher.

              I dont think anybody would take best nurse in the hospital and based on this, think she was qualified to be the CEO of the hospital group.

              What do you believe the role of Sec Def is?

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              @LuFins-Dad said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

              What do you believe the role of Sec Def is?

              An upper management role, almost like a CEO. Not involved in the details, but more the "10000 foot view". Broad policy, with experience and connections to help with implementation.

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                I have trouble understanding what in his background makes him qualified to be Sec of Defense.

                Yes, he was a very good combat veteran, but dont think that qualifies him to "run" a multi-billion dollar organization with hundreds or thousands of "employees".

                He was a relatively junior officer. Wasnt like he was a staff officer or higher.

                I dont think anybody would take best nurse in the hospital and based on this, think she was qualified to be the CEO of the hospital group.

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                @taiwan_girl said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

                I have trouble understanding what in his background makes him qualified to be Sec of Defense.

                OK, the current Secretary for Health and Human Services, Xavier Becerra has zero experience in the health field.

                Xavier Becerra born January 26, 1958 is an American lawyer and politician serving as the 25th United States secretary of health and human services, a position he has held since March 2021. He is the first Latino to hold this position in history.[1] Becerra previously served as the attorney general of California from January 2017 until March 2021. He was a member of the United States House of Representatives, representing Downtown Los Angeles in Congress from 1993 to 2017. A member of the Democratic Party, Becerra was chairman of the House Democratic Caucus from 2013 to 2017.[2]

                He practiced law for a year before becoming Attorney General of California. He was a lawyer for ONE YEAR before becoming the highest ranking attorney in the most populous state in the US.

                His sole experience in "health" is advocating for abortion reproductive rights and fighting repeal of the ACA.

                Sorry...he's married to a physician, so there's that.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @Jolly said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

                  Technology is great, but there is no substitute for boots on the ground.

                  Hydrogen bombs in the sky?

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                  @jon-nyc said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

                  @Jolly said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

                  Technology is great, but there is no substitute for boots on the ground.

                  Hydrogen bombs in the sky?

                  In that case, it doesnt matter. We're all dead.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG George K

                    @taiwan_girl said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

                    I have trouble understanding what in his background makes him qualified to be Sec of Defense.

                    OK, the current Secretary for Health and Human Services, Xavier Becerra has zero experience in the health field.

                    Xavier Becerra born January 26, 1958 is an American lawyer and politician serving as the 25th United States secretary of health and human services, a position he has held since March 2021. He is the first Latino to hold this position in history.[1] Becerra previously served as the attorney general of California from January 2017 until March 2021. He was a member of the United States House of Representatives, representing Downtown Los Angeles in Congress from 1993 to 2017. A member of the Democratic Party, Becerra was chairman of the House Democratic Caucus from 2013 to 2017.[2]

                    He practiced law for a year before becoming Attorney General of California. He was a lawyer for ONE YEAR before becoming the highest ranking attorney in the most populous state in the US.

                    His sole experience in "health" is advocating for abortion reproductive rights and fighting repeal of the ACA.

                    Sorry...he's married to a physician, so there's that.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #18

                    @George-K I honestly dont know how Sec Becerra is doing? Maybe not so good.

                    If I were to be hiring a guy to be the new CEO of a car company, and my only choices were a CEO of a toy company, and a guy who had done a great job operating the service and maintenance department of a car dealer, I know which I would probably do.

                    Running a large organization is a very very very unique job, weather it is government or a company. Not many people can do it. Not to say that there aren't bad CEO's that were hired after being a previous CEO- there definitely are.

                    Running a Government organization is probably even more difficult, as I think that networks and connections are more important than in private company due to funding sources, etc. and your ability to make decisions is much less independent.

                    Singapore government has the attitude that their Cabinet people are like CEO's and if we want to get the best people for the job, we have to pay a competitive CEO salary. (Typically Asian CEO's make much less than US CEO's, but still more than a US cabinet secretary making ~ USD$200K)

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                    • George KG George K

                      @taiwan_girl said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

                      I have trouble understanding what in his background makes him qualified to be Sec of Defense.

                      OK, the current Secretary for Health and Human Services, Xavier Becerra has zero experience in the health field.

                      Xavier Becerra born January 26, 1958 is an American lawyer and politician serving as the 25th United States secretary of health and human services, a position he has held since March 2021. He is the first Latino to hold this position in history.[1] Becerra previously served as the attorney general of California from January 2017 until March 2021. He was a member of the United States House of Representatives, representing Downtown Los Angeles in Congress from 1993 to 2017. A member of the Democratic Party, Becerra was chairman of the House Democratic Caucus from 2013 to 2017.[2]

                      He practiced law for a year before becoming Attorney General of California. He was a lawyer for ONE YEAR before becoming the highest ranking attorney in the most populous state in the US.

                      His sole experience in "health" is advocating for abortion reproductive rights and fighting repeal of the ACA.

                      Sorry...he's married to a physician, so there's that.

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                      wrote on last edited by 89th
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                      @George-K said in Hegseth: No women in combat roles:

                      Xavier Becerra born January 26, 1958 is an American lawyer and politician serving as the 25th United States secretary of health and human services, a position he has held since March 2021. He is the first Latino to hold this position in history.[1] Becerra previously served as the attorney general of California from January 2017 until March 2021. He was a member of the United States House of Representatives, representing Downtown Los Angeles in Congress from 1993 to 2017. A member of the Democratic Party, Becerra was chairman of the House Democratic Caucus from 2013 to 2017.[2]

                      Awfully similar to the failed Kamala and her (in)experience before becoming AG and later a member of Congress.

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