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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    From the Washington Examiner:

    President-elect Donald Trump is expected controversially to move Space Command headquarters out of Colorado to Alabama.

    Space Command, separate from the Trump-created Space Force, has been the center of a yearslong dispute about whether to put its headquarters in Colorado or Alabama. Trump has favored the deep-red Alabama, while Biden favored the deep-blue Colorado. Rep. Mike Rogers (R-AL) told Mobile radio FM Talk 106.5 that Trump would settle the dispute as one of his first moves in office.

    "President Trump said in the campaign that he was going to reverse that decision if elected," he said, referring to Biden's decision to move the headquarters to Colorado. "But I knew he would because if you remember, not only did Alabama win two nationwide competitions, but President Trump's secretary of the Air Force recommended Huntsville, President Biden's secretary of the Air Force recommended Huntsville, and then Biden took it away for political reasons."

    "But it's going to be a big point now because President Trump's already announced it, and I think you'll see in the first week that he's in office, he'll sign an executive order reversing Biden's directive," he continued. "And we will start construction next year in Huntsville."

    The office of Rep.-elect Jeff Crank (R-CO) expressed its opposition to the prospect.

    "He's definitely against the move," a spokesman for Crank told the Washington Examiner.

    Speaking with Al.com, Crank pledged to “resist any attempt” to move the headquarters to Alabama. He also issued some rare criticism of the president-elect by an elected Republican.

    “With Donald Trump, you never know,” he said. “He changes his positions and his stance on issues by the day, and sometimes by the hour. If he wants to build out the Space Force and Space Command and have it meet the national security moment and our threats, then he will keep it here.”

    Another Colorado Republican, Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO) also defended keeping the base in Colorado.

    “Today’s USSPACECOM [full operational capability] announcement is the pinnacle of more than four years of hard work by General Raymond, General Dickinson, and our Guardians,” he said in a statement last year. “This achievement continues to show that Colorado Springs is the right location for USSPACECOM for our nation’s readiness. I am confident our Guardians will do what is necessary to maintain the highest levels of readiness to counter our adversaries’ malign ambitions in space. Our nation and its Allies are counting on it.”

    The Biden administration always defended its move to keep the headquarters in Colorado Springs as a purely national security-focused move, without any political considerations. Its main argument was the perceived threat to readiness.

    A senior White House official told the Colorado Springs Gazette last year that Biden primarily considered the “impact a move would have to operational readiness to confront space-enabled threats during a critical time in this dynamic security environment. U.S. Space Command headquarters will achieve ‘full operational capability’ at Colorado Springs later this month. Maintaining the headquarters there maintains operational readiness and ensures no disruption to its mission or to its personnel.”

    A senior administration official told the Washington Examiner at the time of Biden’s decision that a new site in Alabama would not open until “the early to mid-2030s.”

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      blondie
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      I wonder if this could be near Huntsville, Alabama? We used to visit there when we lived in B’ham. I quite liked it. Different from B’ham and Montgomery. Awesome food, friendly, many people from different corners of the U.S. and out of country. I returned to take a sewing course there about 20 yrs ago. My kid and husband returned too for a vacation.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        Pretty sure it's Huntsville.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Politics as usual.

          The headquarters question has raged since President Trump relaunched Space Command in 2019. The first go-round identified six bases as finalists, four of them in Colorado. But 10 months later, the Air Force announced it was headed back to the drawing board and restarting the process.

          Lets set something up and then spend millions/billions to move it just a few years later. Government efficiency at work.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            Politics as usual.

            The headquarters question has raged since President Trump relaunched Space Command in 2019. The first go-round identified six bases as finalists, four of them in Colorado. But 10 months later, the Air Force announced it was headed back to the drawing board and restarting the process.

            Lets set something up and then spend millions/billions to move it just a few years later. Government efficiency at work.

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            @taiwan_girl said in Rockets & Rednecks:

            Politics as usual.

            The headquarters question has raged since President Trump relaunched Space Command in 2019. The first go-round identified six bases as finalists, four of them in Colorado. But 10 months later, the Air Force announced it was headed back to the drawing board and restarting the process.

            Lets set something up and then spend millions/billions to move it just a few years later. Government efficiency at work.

            Not quite.

            Are you familiar with Alabama and rockets?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Pretty sure it's Huntsville.

              CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              @Jolly said in Rockets & Rednecks:

              Pretty sure it's Huntsville.

              They'll find the grandchildren of the guys that put us on the moon.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @taiwan_girl said in Rockets & Rednecks:

                Politics as usual.

                The headquarters question has raged since President Trump relaunched Space Command in 2019. The first go-round identified six bases as finalists, four of them in Colorado. But 10 months later, the Air Force announced it was headed back to the drawing board and restarting the process.

                Lets set something up and then spend millions/billions to move it just a few years later. Government efficiency at work.

                Not quite.

                Are you familiar with Alabama and rockets?

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                89th
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                @Jolly said in Rockets & Rednecks:

                @taiwan_girl said in Rockets & Rednecks:

                Politics as usual.

                The headquarters question has raged since President Trump relaunched Space Command in 2019. The first go-round identified six bases as finalists, four of them in Colorado. But 10 months later, the Air Force announced it was headed back to the drawing board and restarting the process.

                Lets set something up and then spend millions/billions to move it just a few years later. Government efficiency at work.

                Not quite.

                Are you familiar with Alabama and rockets?

                Wasn't the "Houston (we have a problem)" established because LBJ was a Texan? Had JFK not been shot, maybe it would've been "Boston, we have a problem pahhhking the cahhhh"

                George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                • 89th8 89th

                  @Jolly said in Rockets & Rednecks:

                  @taiwan_girl said in Rockets & Rednecks:

                  Politics as usual.

                  The headquarters question has raged since President Trump relaunched Space Command in 2019. The first go-round identified six bases as finalists, four of them in Colorado. But 10 months later, the Air Force announced it was headed back to the drawing board and restarting the process.

                  Lets set something up and then spend millions/billions to move it just a few years later. Government efficiency at work.

                  Not quite.

                  Are you familiar with Alabama and rockets?

                  Wasn't the "Houston (we have a problem)" established because LBJ was a Texan? Had JFK not been shot, maybe it would've been "Boston, we have a problem pahhhking the cahhhh"

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @89th said in Rockets & Rednecks:

                  "Houston (we have a problem)"

                  Actually that's the Hollywood-ization of the quotation.

                  What Lovell actually said is, "Okay, Houston ... we've had a problem here.."

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston,_we_have_a_problem


                  055:55:19 Swigert: Okay, Houston ...

                  055:55:19 Lovell: ... Houston...

                  055:55:20 Swigert: ... we've had a problem here. [Pause.]

                  055:55:28 Lousma: This is Houston. Say again, please.

                  055:55:35 Lovell: [Garble.] Ah, Houston, we've had a problem. We've had a Main B Bus Undervolt.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    89th
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                    Poor Jack doesn't get the credit for saying it first!

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