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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Is he imagining that Congress will create a new department? Or did he just want to goose Dogecoin? (which doubled this week)

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    @jon-nyc said in WSJ speculates on President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

    Is he imagining that Congress will create a new department? Or did he just want to goose Dogecoin? (which doubled this week)

    The goal, as I understand it?

    Trim $2T.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      All they're empowered to do is write a report. Then Congress still has to act.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        All they're empowered to do is write a report. Then Congress still has to act.

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        @jon-nyc said in WSJ speculates on President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

        All they're empowered to do is write a report. Then Congress still has to act.

        That's why I've called them the Grace Commission.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
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          #112

          I'm not sure either of these guys are astute enough (or are so incentivized) to realize we can't really fix fiscal problems without a serious bipartisan commitment. Any true fix would cause a lot of pain to a shitload of people and if one party were responsible the other party will run on relieving the pain and would likely be victorious.

          At some point we will need to get the two parties to jointly agree to each cause pain to their bases and stick to their guns.

          Actually in today's world the above might not be sufficient, given the parties relative lack of strength. Today it would be too easy for someone to run for the nomination explicitly against the deal that had been struck, and the parties are no longer in a good position to block them.

          Man that's depressing.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Truman managed to get the majority of the Hoover Commission recommendations enacted.

            Sometimes, you never know...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
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              #114

              Right - but there you had a Democratic president choose a Republican ex-president to lead it. That's about as bi-partisan as it gets.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                I'm not sure either of these guys are astute enough (or are so incentivized) to realize we can't really fix fiscal problems without a serious bipartisan commitment. Any true fix would cause a lot of pain to a shitload of people and if one party were responsible the other party will run on relieving the pain and would likely be victorious.

                At some point we will need to get the two parties to jointly agree to each cause pain to their bases and stick to their guns.

                Actually in today's world the above might not be sufficient, given the parties relative lack of strength. Today it would be too easy for someone to run for the nomination explicitly against the deal that had been struck, and the parties are no longer in a good position to block them.

                Man that's depressing.

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                #115

                @jon-nyc said in WSJ speculates on President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                we can't really fix fiscal problems without a serious bipartisan commitment.

                Exactly. Especially in todays world, where every little thing is thought to be beneficial to only one side.

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                • George KG George K

                  Pete Hegseth for SecDef.

                  Was NOT expecting that.

                  He'll probably be the first SecDef with ink.

                  image.jpeg

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                  #116

                  @George-K said in WSJ speculates on President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                  Pete Hegseth for SecDef.

                  Was NOT expecting that.

                  He'll probably be the first SecDef with ink.

                  image.jpeg

                  Reckon Trump read his book?

                  https://books.google.com/books/about/The_War_on_Warriors.html?id=Io3eEAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&gboemv=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Horace
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                    #117

                    I got another of his books tonight. Battle for the American Mind.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      I was sad that Elbridge Colby didn’t get the nomination. I had a man crush on him from his Tucker interview a few days ago.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        #119

                        I notice Tulsi hasn't been mentioned. She really wanted SecDef...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          I'm disappointed I didn't anticipate that DOGE acronym earlier. We've all talked about Elon and the government efficiency... seems obvious in retrospect.

                          Personally, I'm hoping there is a Spectacular Human Intelligence Bureau Agency (SHIBA) entity formed, too. I'll have to see how my crypto is doing.

                          Anyway... fun it ends on July 4th (250th anniversary of reminding @Doctor-Phibes how awesome our militias were).

                          My employment is indirectly associated with the federal government, so it'll be interesting to see if I'll need to find a job as @jon-nyc 's gardener (once they leave for Mexico) to pay the bills in 2026...

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            I am not sure why people think that the way President Trump will pick people for his cabinet will be different from the last time.

                            Last time, we were told (by himself) that we was a businessman who had decades of experience in hiring people and only hired the best. I dont see him changing his style unless to make that there is some sort of "loyalty" question in the hiring.

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                            @taiwan_girl said in WSJ speculates on President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                            I am not sure why people think that the way President Trump will pick people for his cabinet will be different from the last time.

                            Last time, we were told (by himself) that we was a businessman who had decades of experience in hiring people and only hired the best. I dont see him changing his style unless to make that there is some sort of "loyalty" question in the hiring.

                            “The word ‘loyalty’ is often used,” Bolton told CNN’s Jake Tapper. “I think that’s the wrong word, actually. I think what Trump wants from his advisers is fealty, really a feudal sense of subservience.”

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                              Yep, Bolton is a great source.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                I'm disappointed I didn't anticipate that DOGE acronym earlier. We've all talked about Elon and the government efficiency... seems obvious in retrospect.

                                Personally, I'm hoping there is a Spectacular Human Intelligence Bureau Agency (SHIBA) entity formed, too. I'll have to see how my crypto is doing.

                                Anyway... fun it ends on July 4th (250th anniversary of reminding @Doctor-Phibes how awesome our militias were).

                                My employment is indirectly associated with the federal government, so it'll be interesting to see if I'll need to find a job as @jon-nyc 's gardener (once they leave for Mexico) to pay the bills in 2026...

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                                #123

                                @89th said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                I'm disappointed I didn't anticipate that DOGE acronym earlier. We've all talked about Elon and the government efficiency... seems obvious in retrospect.

                                Personally, I'm hoping there is a Spectacular Human Intelligence Bureau Agency (SHIBA) entity formed, too. I'll have to see how my crypto is doing.

                                Anyway... fun it ends on July 4th (250th anniversary of reminding @Doctor-Phibes how awesome our militias were).

                                My employment is indirectly associated with the federal government, so it'll be interesting to see if I'll need to find a job as @jon-nyc 's gardener (once they leave for Mexico) to pay the bills in 2026...

                                Elon's views...

                                Link to video

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  #124

                                  Will Rudy Giuliani get a post?
                                  How about Mike Lindell?
                                  Sidney Powell?

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    Pete Hegseth for SecDef.

                                    Was NOT expecting that.

                                    He'll probably be the first SecDef with ink.

                                    image.jpeg

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
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                                    #125

                                    @George-K said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                    Pete Hegseth for SecDef.

                                    Was NOT expecting that.

                                    He'll probably be the first SecDef with ink.

                                    image.jpeg

                                    Pete's views:

                                    1. Abhors DEI in the military
                                    2. Thinks generals are not accountable for failures
                                    3. Does not want females in certain combat roles

                                    More...

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-pick-of-pete-hegseth-to-lead-pentagon-signals-turmoil-ahead/ar-AA1tYWCR

                                    I don't know if Pete makes it through confirmation or not...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @George-K said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                      Pete Hegseth for SecDef.

                                      Was NOT expecting that.

                                      He'll probably be the first SecDef with ink.

                                      image.jpeg

                                      Pete's views:

                                      1. Abhors DEI in the military
                                      2. Thinks generals are not accountable for failures
                                      3. Does not want females in certain combat roles

                                      More...

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-pick-of-pete-hegseth-to-lead-pentagon-signals-turmoil-ahead/ar-AA1tYWCR

                                      I don't know if Pete makes it through confirmation or not...

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                                      Interesting how we perceive age. US Grant was Secretary of War at age 37. Hegseth is 44.

                                      Never forget Secretary AWOL:

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Interesting how we perceive age. US Grant was Secretary of War at age 37. Hegseth is 44.

                                        Never forget Secretary AWOL:

                                        image.jpeg

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                                        #127

                                        @George-K said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                        Interesting how we perceive age. US Grant was Secretary of War at age 37. Hegseth is 44.

                                        Agreed, I've mentioned before it was surprising how youthful NASA was during the 60s space race. For example, the Flight Director (played by Ed Harris in Apollo 13) was like 35 when he was in charge of all the apollo missions.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @89th said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                          I'm disappointed I didn't anticipate that DOGE acronym earlier. We've all talked about Elon and the government efficiency... seems obvious in retrospect.

                                          Personally, I'm hoping there is a Spectacular Human Intelligence Bureau Agency (SHIBA) entity formed, too. I'll have to see how my crypto is doing.

                                          Anyway... fun it ends on July 4th (250th anniversary of reminding @Doctor-Phibes how awesome our militias were).

                                          My employment is indirectly associated with the federal government, so it'll be interesting to see if I'll need to find a job as @jon-nyc 's gardener (once they leave for Mexico) to pay the bills in 2026...

                                          Elon's views...

                                          Link to video

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                                          89th
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                                          #128

                                          @Jolly said in President-Elect Trump's cabinet:

                                          Elon's views...

                                          He's not wrong, for the most part. I'm not smart enough to know the solution, but cutting federal spending on government agencies seems like a drop in the bucket to tackle the bigger issue of growing crippling national debt, the looming social security crisis, etc...

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