Could Anything Have Been Done Different?

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

Anyway, You have to have numbers to compare things.

No, you have to have good numbers to compare things. And when dealing with constantly shifting base parameters, you better have historical perspective when you're comparing numbers or you'll wind up comparing apples to kumquats.

It's been widely discussed that the number of illegals in the country are many more than the Biden Administration reported. Some say as many as twice as many. 🤯

What does that say about the validity of illegal immigrant number comparisons?

[taiwan_girl]

No one disputes (at least I dont) that illegal border entries are higher under President Biden.

My point was that President Trump campainged in 2016 that
he WILL decrease the illegal border crossings
he WILL improve the economy

He campaigned in 2020 that
he DID did decrease the illegal border crossings
he DID improve the economy

I showed numbers from the Customs and Border Organization that showed the number of illegal entries was more than under President Obama and the number of border patrol agents was about the same. I showed numbers on the economy that showed the improvement was marginal at best. (Yes, COVID did play a role, but again, who was president in 2020?)

If the counter argument is that because you dont like what the numbers are saying, they are wrong, I have no more melt point tables of ANSI 150 steel left. LOL

Still love you however.

[Axtremus]

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/11/12/matt-davies-cartoon-election-recriminations-democrats/

[taiwan_girl]

Read an interview with a Democrat advisor who was saying that very few Democrats seemed to be obvious (or were in denial) to the fact that social "woke" issues caused big problems for them during the election.

One comment he made was something like

"telling somebody who is barely scraping by on $10/hour that he is privileged because he is white is not a way to get his vote"

His point was that the Democrats had to shift away from this if they wanted to have any success in the future.

[Copper]

Yes, white people have some influence in this country.

[Horace]

The best predictor of voting preference in this election wasn’t white or not white, it was male or female.

[Jolly]

Trump said the issue that came up wherever he went was the price of groceries.

People spoke to him about that more than anything else

[LuFins Dad]

@Horace said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

The best predictor of voting preference in this election wasn’t white or not white, it was male or female.

Not as much as advertised.

[LuFins Dad]

45% of women voted Trump.

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

45% of women voted Trump.

Point taken. Easy to lose sight of this, with all the messaging that he hates women and wants control over their bodies. And that messaging is generally sourced from a female talking head.

[Horace]

Emma from the Majority Report actually broke down into tears on the show after Trump's victory, while she reflected on women losing their rights under Trump.

[LuFins Dad]

@Horace said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

45% of women voted Trump.

Point taken. Easy to lose sight of this, with all the messaging that he hates women and wants control over their bodies. And that messaging is generally sourced from a female talking head.

Yep, he actually had a majority with white women.