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Could Anything Have Been Done Different?

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    You’re projecting again.

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    Horace
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    @jon-nyc said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

    You’re projecting again.

    I'm sure you believe that. Gaslight yourself, then gaslight others. That's the process.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      I have no problem with President Trump becoming president. I did predict it. However, I do not think he (or VP Harris also) are the best choices for the country.

      I just think there is a bit of TDS on President Trumps followers.

      I know we have a lot of history people here. So, I have the following question:

      What president had a "base" that adored him as much as the base of President Trump adores him?

      Anyway, You have to have numbers to compare things. it is not fair to say, "yes, the numbers show illegal crossings were a bit higher under President Trump vs. President Obama. Even so, I feel that they were higher under President Obama." They werent. That is where I say that President Trump is a good cheerleader. He can increase your mental satisfaction even if things stay the same.

      As I said before, regardless of who is president, the sun will come up, the stores will open, the stock market will go up, etc.

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      @taiwan_girl said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

      Anyway, You have to have numbers to compare things.

      No, you have to have good numbers to compare things. And when dealing with constantly shifting base parameters, you better have historical perspective when you're comparing numbers or you'll wind up comparing apples to kumquats.

      It's been widely discussed that the number of illegals in the country are many more than the Biden Administration reported. Some say as many as twice as many. 😱🤯

      What does that say about the validity of illegal immigrant number comparisons?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        #50

        No one disputes (at least I dont) that illegal border entries are higher under President Biden.

        My point was that President Trump campainged in 2016 that
        he WILL decrease the illegal border crossings
        he WILL improve the economy

        He campaigned in 2020 that
        he DID did decrease the illegal border crossings
        he DID improve the economy

        I showed numbers from the Customs and Border Organization that showed the number of illegal entries was more than under President Obama and the number of border patrol agents was about the same. I showed numbers on the economy that showed the improvement was marginal at best. (Yes, COVID did play a role, but again, who was president in 2020?)

        If the counter argument is that because you dont like what the numbers are saying, they are wrong, I have no more melt point tables of ANSI 150 steel left. LOL

        Still love you however. :couplekiss:

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          Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/11/12/matt-davies-cartoon-election-recriminations-democrats/

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            #52

            Read an interview with a Democrat advisor who was saying that very few Democrats seemed to be obvious (or were in denial) to the fact that social "woke" issues caused big problems for them during the election.

            One comment he made was something like

            "telling somebody who is barely scraping by on $10/hour that he is privileged because he is white is not a way to get his vote"

            His point was that the Democrats had to shift away from this if they wanted to have any success in the future.

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              Yes, white people have some influence in this country.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                The best predictor of voting preference in this election wasn’t white or not white, it was male or female.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Trump said the issue that came up wherever he went was the price of groceries.

                  People spoke to him about that more than anything else

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    The best predictor of voting preference in this election wasn’t white or not white, it was male or female.

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                    @Horace said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

                    The best predictor of voting preference in this election wasn’t white or not white, it was male or female.

                    Not as much as advertised.

                    The Brad

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                      45% of women voted Trump.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        45% of women voted Trump.

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

                        45% of women voted Trump.

                        Point taken. Easy to lose sight of this, with all the messaging that he hates women and wants control over their bodies. And that messaging is generally sourced from a female talking head.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Emma from the Majority Report actually broke down into tears on the show after Trump's victory, while she reflected on women losing their rights under Trump.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

                            45% of women voted Trump.

                            Point taken. Easy to lose sight of this, with all the messaging that he hates women and wants control over their bodies. And that messaging is generally sourced from a female talking head.

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                            @Horace said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:

                            45% of women voted Trump.

                            Point taken. Easy to lose sight of this, with all the messaging that he hates women and wants control over their bodies. And that messaging is generally sourced from a female talking head.

                            Yep, he actually had a majority with white women.

                            The Brad

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