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California: No rockets because of political statements

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Horace said in California: No rockets because of political statements:

    And Disney vs DeSantis? Dismissed by a judge.

    Ruled against at district level but appealed the very next day to the circuit court. The two parties later reached a settlement. DeSantis replaced the Magats on the improvement district with serious people and agreed to renegotiate the terms of the deal with Disney. Disney agreed to suspend the appeal pending the renegotiation.

    Kind of like what I thought would happen - once his campaign tanked, he’d quietly walk it back. He is a traditional business-friendly Republican politician, after all.

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    @jon-nyc said in California: No rockets because of political statements:

    @Horace said in California: No rockets because of political statements:

    And Disney vs DeSantis? Dismissed by a judge.

    Ruled against at district level but appealed the very next day to the circuit court. The two parties later reached a settlement. DeSantis replaced the Magats on the improvement district with serious people and agreed to renegotiate the terms of the deal with Disney. Disney agreed to suspend the appeal pending the renegotiation.

    Kind of like what I thought would happen - once his campaign tanked, he’d quietly walk it back. He is a traditional business-friendly Republican politician, after all.

    And the one judge who actually looked into the legal principles involved here, disagrees with you. You appeal to the authority of the case French alerted you to, while shrugging off the ruling already made. I'm not a huge fan of an appeal to legal authority to determine whether your principle is coherent, but if that's your measure, you lose. If your measure is common sense, then you can go ahead and think San Francisco wouldn't be within its legal rights to sever business ties with a vendor who started selling white supremacist pamphlets as a side hustle. That won't be anybody else's common sense.

    Education is extremely important.

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      #35

      The particulars of this case are very different of course, and I won't be surprised if Musk prevails in his law suit.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @Horace said in California: No rockets because of political statements:

        And Disney vs DeSantis? Dismissed by a judge.

        Ruled against at district level but appealed the very next day to the circuit court. The two parties later reached a settlement. DeSantis replaced the Magats on the improvement district with serious people and agreed to renegotiate the terms of the deal with Disney. Disney agreed to suspend the appeal pending the renegotiation.

        Kind of like what I thought would happen - once his campaign tanked, he’d quietly walk it back. He is a traditional business-friendly Republican politician, after all.

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        #36

        @jon-nyc said in California: No rockets because of political statements:

        @Horace said in California: No rockets because of political statements:

        And Disney vs DeSantis? Dismissed by a judge.

        Ruled against at district level but appealed the very next day to the circuit court. The two parties later reached a settlement. DeSantis replaced the Magats on the improvement district with serious people and agreed to renegotiate the terms of the deal with Disney. Disney agreed to suspend the appeal pending the renegotiation.

        Kind of like what I thought would happen - once his campaign tanked, he’d quietly walk it back. He is a traditional business-friendly Republican politician, after all.

        @jon-nyc said in California: No rockets because of political statements:

        @Horace said in California: No rockets because of political statements:

        And Disney vs DeSantis? Dismissed by a judge.

        Ruled against at district level but appealed the very next day to the circuit court. The two parties later reached a settlement. DeSantis replaced the Magats on the improvement district with serious people and agreed to renegotiate the terms of the deal with Disney. Disney agreed to suspend the appeal pending the renegotiation.

        Kind of like what I thought would happen - once his campaign tanked, he’d quietly walk it back. He is a traditional business-friendly Republican politician, after all.

        I will forever regret the campaign he ran. He should have destroyed that orange blowhard.

        The Brad

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          jon-nyc
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          #37

          It’s just hard to be a post-Trump candidate in the Trump era. Vivek suffered the same fate.

          I wonder if he’s kicking himself for not waiting. I bet he’d have easily been VP nominee had he played his cards right. And then he’d be odds on favorite for 28. Now he’ll have Vance to deal with.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            #38

            Be interesting if Vance is running while VP...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
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              #39

              Yes he already told us he’d lie cheat and steal as necessary.

              Another reason to vote against him.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                Trump used to think the VP had total discretion to certify or not.

                Do you think he believes it now?

                My guess is he believes Harris doesn’t have that right, but Vance will have it in 2028. And if you asked him to justify that he’d vomit a bunch of incoherent non-sentences and the cult members would go “yep”!

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  Horace
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                  #41

                  The existential threat crowd sure does seem to take the certification stuff seriously.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    #42

                    Protecting democracy is tough.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      I don't believe it.

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