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Obese on airplanes

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #10

    Folks, let's solve the problem. Even for small folk, seats gave shrunk.

    https://maphappy.org/this-is-how-small-airplane-seats-have-shrunk-over-the-years/

    If the government can mandate how much room a dog gets, they should be able to regulate seat sizes. At some point, it's a safety issue.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Offline
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      #11

      Let's say you have a 120 coach seat airplane. You charge $300 a seat, raking in $36K. If you made them all two seat rows and sold them at $400 you'd net $32K, but you'd be saving a LOT of fuel, and you could take on more cargo. At $450 a seat you'd be breaking even. I don't think anyone would balk at another $100 to be comfortable.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        #12

        If you wedge someone in tightly enough, it's like a de facto seat belt, so it's actually very safe. Similar to japanese joinery that uses no nails or glue.

        Education is extremely important.

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          If you wedge someone in tightly enough, it's like a de facto seat belt, so it's actually very safe. Similar to japanese joinery that uses no nails or glue.

          AxtremusA Away
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          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by
          #13

          @Horace said in Obese on airplanes:

          If you wedge someone in tightly enough, it's like a de facto seat belt, so it's actually very safe. Similar to japanese joinery that uses no nails or glue.

          The same principle applies to legroom too. Make the legroom small enough and you wedge the legs tightly between two rows of seats, securing the passengers to their seats like de facto seat belts.

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            #14

            I’ve really welcomed the decade long trend to have extra legroom in coach for a fee. Same with premium economy on long haul flights. Really makes a difference for me.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              #15

              Most of my miles are on United, and one thing that they did a few years ago was to go to a thinner cushion on the economy chairs. The inch or two width they saved on the cushion allowed them to add another row (or maybe two) of seats, even though they are now pretty uncomfortable.

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                Yes, better material science and better industrial design allow thinner chairs/cushions without sacrificing comfort while allowing more seats to be added to an aircraft. Personally I like the new, thinner chairs/cushions better than the thicker ones from, say, 20 years ago.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Yes, better material science and better industrial design allow thinner chairs/cushions without sacrificing comfort while allowing more seats to be added to an aircraft. Personally I like the new, thinner chairs/cushions better than the thicker ones from, say, 20 years ago.

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                  @Axtremus said in Obese on airplanes:

                  Yes, better material science and better industrial design allow thinner chairs/cushions without sacrificing comfort while allowing more seats to be added to an aircraft. Personally I like the new, thinner chairs/cushions better than the thicker ones from, say, 20 years ago.

                  I dont. For US domestic flight more than ~ 2 hours, I notice a difference (but maybe it is only me) in a bad way.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    #18

                    I don’t either. They are thinner up in front too.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      @89th said in Obese on airplanes:

                      I picked Comfort Plus, and let’s just say it was Comfort Minus.

                      I just took a trip to Orlando on American, we bought the upgraded seats, not 1st, just upgraded. I was feeling generous since I paid for the tickets with miles.

                      If those are the upgraded seats, I wouldn't want to be in plain old coach. The leg room was barely OK, not great and I'm only 5'9".

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                      @Copper said in Obese on airplanes:

                      If those are the upgraded seats, I wouldn't want to be in plain old coach.

                      I just received a refund from American Airlines.
                      The only explanation was:

                      Refund for: Preferred Seat
                      Refund amount: 28.76 USD

                      My guess is that they changed equipment and I got a seat that wasn't preferred. That might explain the not so great legroom.

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