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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #58

    The question is whether it actually matters?

    The Brad

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by Horace
      #59

      Given his attitude that socialism is just being neighborly, Walz can be relied on to love big government solutions at every turn. Vance clearly has principles against big government, even if he abandons them on a case by case basis. As does everybody who's not an anarchist.

      I heard a story about Walz's wife during the BLM riots in her city. She opened the windows to take in the smell of burning cars, to revel in it.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tim-walz-s-wife-gwen-said-she-kept-windows-open-during-george-floyd-riots-to-smell-burning-tires/ar-AA1opdMB

      Read between the lines and you can tell the BLM riots excited her. White woman smelling exciting justice riots from open window of governor's mansion. There's a parable there somewhere.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #60

        I think the GOP should no longer do a debate sponsored by any major network.

        From now on, let each candidate pick a questioner for the other candidate, and hold one debate

        Secondly, hold two town halls, one in a deeply blue state, one in a deeply red state, pulling registered voters at random - one third each, GOP, Dem and Independent.

        Have a man standing behind the moderator with a cattle prod. If the moderator breaks the rules, zap him!

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #61

          One surprising thing was when they did hold Walz’s feet to the fire over the claim that he was in Hong Kong during Tiananmen Square.

          The Brad

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          • MikM Offline
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            #62

            I was encouraged by how much common ground was identified last night. What sticks with me this morning is the GAO estimates on the respective economic plans.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              I was encouraged by how much common ground was identified last night. What sticks with me this morning is the GAO estimates on the respective economic plans.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #63

              @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

              I was encouraged by how much common ground was identified last night. What sticks with me this morning is the GAO estimates on the respective economic plans.

              Wait, what? I didn’t even catch that. There were several collegiate estimates and the Goldman Sachs thing that was walked back. Can you send me something on the GAO estimates.

              The Brad

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #64

                I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                Hugh Hewitt:

                Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #65

                  His facial expressions throughout the night made him look perpetually hapless, like Don Rickles’s wimpy Lutheran brother, here to nod eagerly at you instead of hurl insults.

                  https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/vance-dominates-walz-in-a-shockingly-substantive-and-polite-debate/

                  The Brad

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                  • George KG George K

                    I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                    Hugh Hewitt:

                    Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #66

                    @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                    I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                    Hugh Hewitt:

                    Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                    Yep, concentrate on the issue everybody knows is a loser for the GOP.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                      #67

                      I watched the whole debate. Several of the issues were the same as to what is being debated in this country. Not surprisingly, Walz is still working his last job. Don’t think it helps him. Not sure about Vance, although he strikes me as a more educated and smoother version of our little P.P., Pierre Poilievre.

                      Can’t help but think though that Walz too often pulled faces that made himself look like Don Rickles. It was distracting.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
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                        #68

                        He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          kluurs
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                          #69

                          I thought Vance's smile and respectful but challenging demeanor helped him a lot in overcoming some negatives that have been tossed at him.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #70

                            @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

                            He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                            GY2727ibgAAkgFC.png

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

                              He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                              GY2727ibgAAkgFC.png

                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #71

                              @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                              @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

                              He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                              GY2727ibgAAkgFC.png

                              LOL!

                              The Brad

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                              • George KG George K

                                I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                                Hugh Hewitt:

                                Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #72

                                @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                                I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                                Hugh Hewitt:

                                Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                                Abortion > Possible nuclear war.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                                  I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                                  Hugh Hewitt:

                                  Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                                  Abortion > Possible nuclear war.

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #73

                                  @Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

                                  @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                                  I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                                  Hugh Hewitt:

                                  Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                                  Abortion > Possible nuclear war.

                                  IVF for everyone after the radiation!

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #74

                                    The Brad

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #75

                                      When Vance's mic was cut, he was trying to explain the use of the CBP app. Walz was wrong in his characterization of that policy.

                                      The idiot moderators at CBS should have let Vance make his point and then allow Walz a short rebuttal. After all, this was a debate and the two were addressing perhaps the largest issue of the campaign.

                                      No, we had to go to climate change, with O'Donnell prefacing her question with opinion stated as fact.

                                      Sheesh...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • HoraceH Offline
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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #76

                                        High status progressive white women and their fierce, unflinching defense of the right side of history. They were morally compelled to do what they did, and they will never make any apologies for it.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #77

                                          No, they've swam in the Leftist Lake for so long, it's the only political water they recognize.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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