Walz Vance debate

[Jolly]

OK, did Vance bury the "weird" moniker?

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:

@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:

Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?

He said 140 police officers were beaten.

And many later died.

Not inaccurate. I’m sure many police officers have died since January 6.

[LuFins Dad]

Over 80% of people exposed to DiHydrogen Monoxide have died.

[Horace]

@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

OK, did Vance bury the "weird" moniker?

No, gone was the divisive rhetoric. I sort of figured that one wouldn't play on a debate stage. Not least because Vance doesn't actually come off as weird.

[LuFins Dad]

[Mik]

@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

@Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

Yeah, I agree, George. Been pleasantly surprised by Walz.

Six term congressman, two term governor. He's not a novice politician.

You need to understand the low standard I expected.

[Jolly]

@Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

@Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

Yeah, I agree, George. Been pleasantly surprised by Walz.

Six term congressman, two term governor. He's not a novice politician.

You need to understand the low standard I expected.

The Harris Campaign had spent days lowering expectations, much as they did for her.

[Jolly]

At times, I was confused.

Was Walz running for VP of the United States or Minnesota?

[George K]

[George K]

LOL.

School shooters have distanced themselves from Tim Walz, clarifying that "we didn't even know him that well" and "our mom made us invite him to our birthday parties like one time."

[Jolly]

Debates are pictures and sound bites.

God Bless him, Walz provided a heckuva sound bite.

[LuFins Dad]

My take? Vance handled the abortion question brilliantly. That needs to become the pro-life platform for the time being.

Walz came across better on gun control, excepting his weird thing about befriending school shooters and the thing about his son witnessing a shooting. You know that’s going to be fact checked. It sounds like all of the other exaggerations Walz has made.

I liked how Vance turned the Jan 6 question around to a challenge about censorship and the 1st amendment.

Altogether, though? Both scared the shit out of me. Both are fully engaged in the idea of a large and expansive government that needs to have it’s fingerprints on everything, from the price of a load of bread, to people’s investments in their homes, to national daycare. They both seem to think government is the answer for everything.

[Jolly]

I would like to ask Walz...If your medical system is so good, why are people suiciding with guns at such a high rate in Minnesota's rural areas?

[George K]

My favorite part was when CBS cut the mic after Vance started to fact-check the self-appointed "fact-checkers" who said they'd do no fact-checking.

[Jolly]

BTW, Vance was right.

[LuFins Dad]

The question is whether it actually matters?

[Horace]

Given his attitude that socialism is just being neighborly, Walz can be relied on to love big government solutions at every turn. Vance clearly has principles against big government, even if he abandons them on a case by case basis. As does everybody who's not an anarchist.

I heard a story about Walz's wife during the BLM riots in her city. She opened the windows to take in the smell of burning cars, to revel in it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tim-walz-s-wife-gwen-said-she-kept-windows-open-during-george-floyd-riots-to-smell-burning-tires/ar-AA1opdMB

Read between the lines and you can tell the BLM riots excited her. White woman smelling exciting justice riots from open window of governor's mansion. There's a parable there somewhere.

[Jolly]

I think the GOP should no longer do a debate sponsored by any major network.

From now on, let each candidate pick a questioner for the other candidate, and hold one debate

Secondly, hold two town halls, one in a deeply blue state, one in a deeply red state, pulling registered voters at random - one third each, GOP, Dem and Independent.

Have a man standing behind the moderator with a cattle prod. If the moderator breaks the rules, zap him!

[LuFins Dad]

One surprising thing was when they did hold Walz’s feet to the fire over the claim that he was in Hong Kong during Tiananmen Square.

[Mik]

I was encouraged by how much common ground was identified last night. What sticks with me this morning is the GAO estimates on the respective economic plans.