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Andrew Sullivan: This is very Weimar

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 15:21 last edited by
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    You seriously need to work on that resentment Horace. It’s unhealthy.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Horace
      wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 15:23 last edited by
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      By all means feel free to attempt to stand on the strength of your ideas, jon. That's why we're here.

      Education is extremely important.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 16:12 last edited by
        #63

        TNCR: Come for the ideas, stay for the ad hominems.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Horace
          wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 16:18 last edited by
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          Are ad hominems another thing you take no responsibility for jon? I mean your lack of integrity for being a guy who is more than willing to get down and dirty may be such that you're unwilling to even admit that you throw stones yourself. So I'm curious if you're capable of admitting that. The innocent princess act might be bought by a couple people here but the number is diminishing.

          Education is extremely important.

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            bachophile
            wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 16:52 last edited by
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            Jon if it’s any consolation, I get what u r saying.

            Not that I’m taking sides....lol

            But I do get it.

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              bachophile
              wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 16:54 last edited by bachophile
              #66

              U can take me out of New York, but u can’t take my democratic NY Jewish liberalism out of me.

              In medicine it’s called an inborn error of metabolism

              Blame my genes

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                Horace
                wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 17:05 last edited by
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                I think everybody gets what he's saying. It's just that some of us reject the notion that Trump and his supporters bear an important part of the responsibility for the rioting. Millions accept that, of course. I mean it is not new that a hated politician can be easily blamed for bad stuff, by those who hate them.

                I don't anticipate TDS sufferers ever coming to terms with their own personal failures and culpability for the cultural conflagration they have helped to create. This is a consequence of their attitude that no outcome is worse than Trump being president, full stop. Of course they paint themselves into a corner when they so proudly claim that. And of course they'll never admit that yes, some things could be worse. The only thing they can do when they see those worse things, is to blame Trump.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 17:14 last edited by
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                  That’s quite disingenuous as you know full well I blame the far left constantly for the action and the moderate left for the enabling. You participate in threads where I do that all the time.

                  Keep in mind all of this is in response to Trump warning us about what Biden’s America might look like by showing us footage of what Trump’s America actually looks like.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 17:28 last edited by
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                    Yes i understand that you think complaining about both sides is a get out of personal responsibility free card. But actually it's not, and as you've blamed Trump and his supporters for their culpability for the riots, I blame you for your part in the righteous outrage that TDS sufferers have very intentionally fomented everywhere.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 17:43 last edited by
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                      A burden I guess I’ll have to just bear.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 18:05 last edited by Horace
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                        Please bear it like a princess bears a tiara, till you lose patience and let the inner 16 year old boy out with his insults. That's the most fun cycle to watch.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 18:28 last edited by
                          #72

                          You can’t get through three posts without an insult and I’m the sixteen year old?

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 18:40 last edited by
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                            You two should get a room separate sub-forum.

                            I was only joking

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                              29 Aug 2020, 18:40

                              You two should get a room separate sub-forum.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 21:39 last edited by
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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Andrew Sullivan: This is very Weimar:

                              You two should get a room separate sub-forum.

                              Jon's a mod. He could probably set it up...

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                29 Aug 2020, 21:39

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Andrew Sullivan: This is very Weimar:

                                You two should get a room separate sub-forum.

                                Jon's a mod. He could probably set it up...

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 21:46 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in Andrew Sullivan: This is very Weimar:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Andrew Sullivan: This is very Weimar:

                                You two should get a room separate sub-forum.

                                Jon's a mod. He could probably set it up...

                                He could, and then not allow Horace posting privileges.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 22:16 last edited by
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                                  jon's already blocked all my great ideas from his mind. It's not dissimilar to blocking me from posting to a private sub forum.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 23:59 last edited by
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                                    It would be the other way around. I’d set up a subforum for your great ideas and then never go there.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      29 Aug 2020, 17:14

                                      That’s quite disingenuous as you know full well I blame the far left constantly for the action and the moderate left for the enabling. You participate in threads where I do that all the time.

                                      Keep in mind all of this is in response to Trump warning us about what Biden’s America might look like by showing us footage of what Trump’s America actually looks like.

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 00:31 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Andrew Sullivan: This is very Weimar:

                                      Keep in mind all of this is in response to Trump warning us about what Biden’s America might look like by showing us footage of what Trump’s America actually looks like.

                                      I have to admit this is kind of funny. President Trump shows videos and talks about what is happening as what would happen under President Biden.

                                      Wait a second????!!! Who is the president right now? LOL

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 00:58 last edited by
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                                        Yeah the subtext of the convention was basically ‘if Trump were president none of this would be happening’.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 01:54 last edited by
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                                          It makes perfect sense for Trump to point to the riots and run against them. The only people guffawing are the people who don't like him anyway and are only too happy to blame bad stuff on him, no matter how flimsy the connection.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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