Acceptance speech

jon-nyc · X xenon 28 Aug 2020, 04:19

@xenon said in Acceptance speech:

Is it normal for incumbents to do their convention at the White House?

Copper · wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 17:59

questions about ethics law violations

Our prisons are full of people who committed ethics law violations

jon-nyc · wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 02:22

@jon-nyc said in Acceptance speech:

Key theme of the campaign: ‘None of this would be happening if Donald Trump were President’.

Horace · wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 02:28

What Biden encourages people to do to America. There I fixed it.

taiwan_girl · wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 02:41

Who has been President for the past 3.5 years?

A. President Trump
B. Vice President Biden

Which party controlled President Office, Senate, and House of Representatives during the first two years of the current President term?

A. Republics
B. Democrats?

Which party has currently control of two of the following three offices (President office, Senate, House of Representative)?

A. Republics
B. Democrats

What elected office or authority has Vice President Biden had in the last 3.5 years?

A. None
B. Deep State King

Who is the blame for the current unrest?

A. Any and all republic president from the last 100 years
B. Any and all democrat presidents from the last 100 years
C. The founding fathers of the US
D. Anybody as long as they are from the other party

Horace · 2 Sept 2020, 03:06

Are you trying to convince someone of something, or are you trying to fashion a string of words that could convince a toy artificial intelligence algorithm that a certain chain of logic could coherently blame Trump for the unrest?

taiwan_girl · H Horace 2 Sept 2020, 02:51

@Horace said in Acceptance speech:

Are you trying to convince someone of something, or are you trying to fashion a string of words that could convince a toy artificial intelligence algorithm that a certain chain of logic could coherently blame Trump for the unrest?

My point is that MOST (maybe all) politicians (and presidents since I am talking about them in this forum thread) are very very quick to take credit when something is good but very very quick to blame the "other" guy when things go bad.

My understanding is that the US President is elected for a continuous 4 year term. not just the good months.

President Obama cannot say - "Only look at my President term for Jan, March, June, Sept of 2013. Jan, Feb, May, Aug of 2014, etc.)

President Trump cannot say - "Only look at my President term for XX months in 2017, March through Aug 2020 does not count, etc."

I have said this before, but I like the statement from US President Truman - "The Buck Stops Here"

I would like for once a modern president to stand up and say - " I am the President. What happens while I am President is my responsibility. No excuses. No blame to others. The buck stops here!!"

Horace · 2 Sept 2020, 03:16

It's like you're taking a firm stand against thinking about or discussing any problem until the president takes full responsibility for it. I'm not sure why you think that's a good idea.

taiwan_girl · H Horace 2 Sept 2020, 03:10

@Horace said in Acceptance speech:

It's like you're taking a firm stand against thinking about or discussing any problem until the president takes full responsibility for it. I'm not sure why you think that's a good idea.

For me, it seems like the "default" reaction is to throw blame.

Using PResident Trump as an example (since he is the current president), his first instinct is to throw something on Twitter - usually derogatory or blame throwing. Not sure what that accomplishes.

Does it make it easier or harder to have a "productive" discussion? For me, i dont think so.

Horace · wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 03:20

We're trying to have a discussion about who's to blame for the riots, but as far as you're concerned no such conversation should be had until Trump accepts full responsibility. Only then can we begin to discuss who's responsible.

Rainman · wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 04:44

I think it's enjoyable to watch Taiwan Girl try so incessantly to straddle the fence on every issue, hoping to prove how awful Trump is by her kind, ultra-nice, condescending input, which oftentimes treats the reader as a child by stating obvious cherry-picked points or, stating the obvious as if she just made it up.

"My understanding is that the US President is elected for a continuous 4 year term. not just the good months." Not sure about this, need to ask Ax, Google, or a kid in 4th grade.

"I would like for once a modern president to stand up and say - " I am the President. What happens while I am President is my responsibility. No excuses. No blame to others. The buck stops here!!"

Lessee. . . is this what you meant:

"I am the President. The rioting in Portland, the looting, the burning, is all my fault. ALL MY FAULT! NO EXCUSES. NO BLAME TO OTHERS. IT'S ALL ME, I DID IT ALL, I CAUSED IT ALL, I NEED A KLEENEX. I will not blame the Mayor, City Council, Governor, the Oregon legislature, radical left-wing Critical Race Theory or Cultural Marxists, useless thugs, impotent federal congress, left-wing judges doing the legislator's job, or anyone else for this, it is clearly my fault because. . . I am Orange Man Bad.

How's that?

Horace · wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 05:07

I think that's the gist. Gold star, A+ work Rainman.

Larry · wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 05:18

Trump is president of the US, not the governor of Oregon. It is the height of stupidity to blame Trump for the failures of a state's government.

taiwan_girl · wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 13:50

@Horace @Rainman @Larry

I guess we need to agree to disagree. Good discussion however. :couple_with_heart:

Horace · wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 14:04

Good discussion, TG.

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