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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #51

    What Biden encourages people to do to America. There I fixed it.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
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      #52

      Who has been President for the past 3.5 years?

      A. President Trump
      B. Vice President Biden

      Which party controlled President Office, Senate, and House of Representatives during the first two years of the current President term?

      A. Republics
      B. Democrats?

      Which party has currently control of two of the following three offices (President office, Senate, House of Representative)?

      A. Republics
      B. Democrats

      What elected office or authority has Vice President Biden had in the last 3.5 years?

      A. None
      B. Deep State King

      Who is the blame for the current unrest?

      A. Any and all republic president from the last 100 years
      B. Any and all democrat presidents from the last 100 years
      C. The founding fathers of the US
      D. Anybody as long as they are from the other party

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #53

        Are you trying to convince someone of something, or are you trying to fashion a string of words that could convince a toy artificial intelligence algorithm that a certain chain of logic could coherently blame Trump for the unrest?

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          Are you trying to convince someone of something, or are you trying to fashion a string of words that could convince a toy artificial intelligence algorithm that a certain chain of logic could coherently blame Trump for the unrest?

          taiwan_girlT Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #54

          @Horace said in Acceptance speech:

          Are you trying to convince someone of something, or are you trying to fashion a string of words that could convince a toy artificial intelligence algorithm that a certain chain of logic could coherently blame Trump for the unrest?

          My point is that MOST (maybe all) politicians (and presidents since I am talking about them in this forum thread) are very very quick to take credit when something is good but very very quick to blame the "other" guy when things go bad.

          My understanding is that the US President is elected for a continuous 4 year term. not just the good months.

          President Obama cannot say - "Only look at my President term for Jan, March, June, Sept of 2013. Jan, Feb, May, Aug of 2014, etc.)

          President Trump cannot say - "Only look at my President term for XX months in 2017, March through Aug 2020 does not count, etc."

          I have said this before, but I like the statement from US President Truman - "The Buck Stops Here"

          I would like for once a modern president to stand up and say - " I am the President. What happens while I am President is my responsibility. No excuses. No blame to others. The buck stops here!!"

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #55

            It's like you're taking a firm stand against thinking about or discussing any problem until the president takes full responsibility for it. I'm not sure why you think that's a good idea.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              It's like you're taking a firm stand against thinking about or discussing any problem until the president takes full responsibility for it. I'm not sure why you think that's a good idea.

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              @Horace said in Acceptance speech:

              It's like you're taking a firm stand against thinking about or discussing any problem until the president takes full responsibility for it. I'm not sure why you think that's a good idea.

              For me, it seems like the "default" reaction is to throw blame.

              Using PResident Trump as an example (since he is the current president), his first instinct is to throw something on Twitter - usually derogatory or blame throwing. Not sure what that accomplishes.

              Does it make it easier or harder to have a "productive" discussion? For me, i dont think so.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #57

                We're trying to have a discussion about who's to blame for the riots, but as far as you're concerned no such conversation should be had until Trump accepts full responsibility. Only then can we begin to discuss who's responsible.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • RainmanR Offline
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                  Rainman
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                  #58

                  I think it's enjoyable to watch Taiwan Girl try so incessantly to straddle the fence on every issue, hoping to prove how awful Trump is by her kind, ultra-nice, condescending input, which oftentimes treats the reader as a child by stating obvious cherry-picked points or, stating the obvious as if she just made it up.

                  "My understanding is that the US President is elected for a continuous 4 year term. not just the good months." Not sure about this, need to ask Ax, Google, or a kid in 4th grade.

                  "I would like for once a modern president to stand up and say - " I am the President. What happens while I am President is my responsibility. No excuses. No blame to others. The buck stops here!!"

                  Lessee. . . is this what you meant:

                  "I am the President. The rioting in Portland, the looting, the burning, is all my fault. ALL MY FAULT! NO EXCUSES. NO BLAME TO OTHERS. IT'S ALL ME, I DID IT ALL, I CAUSED IT ALL, I NEED A KLEENEX. I will not blame the Mayor, City Council, Governor, the Oregon legislature, radical left-wing Critical Race Theory or Cultural Marxists, useless thugs, impotent federal congress, left-wing judges doing the legislator's job, or anyone else for this, it is clearly my fault because. . . I am Orange Man Bad.

                  How's that?

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
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                    #59

                    I think that's the gist. Gold star, A+ work Rainman.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • LarryL Offline
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                      Larry
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                      #60

                      Trump is president of the US, not the governor of Oregon. It is the height of stupidity to blame Trump for the failures of a state's government.

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                        #61

                        @Horace @Rainman @Larry

                        I guess we need to agree to disagree. Good discussion however. :couple_with_heart:

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                          Good discussion, TG.

                          Education is extremely important.

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