Acceptance speech
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@xenon said in Acceptance speech:
Is it normal for incumbents to do their convention at the White House?
It’s also not normal for there to be “political/convention fireworks on government property” which the liberal media liked to mention about 10 times in the minute after the speech ended, at least on the CBS channel i was watching last night.
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@xenon said in Acceptance speech:
Is it normal for incumbents to do their convention at the White House?
Why would you ask that question? Quiz time where did Trump and the RNC want the convention?
@Loki said in Acceptance speech:
@xenon said in Acceptance speech:
Is it normal for incumbents to do their convention at the White House?
Why would you ask that question? Quiz time where did Trump and the RNC want the convention?
89 mention he could see the the fireworks, and I remembered I’ve usually seen these things in stadiums. But wasn’t sure.
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Speech was too long and didn't have the typical Trump Fire throughout.
But if anybody needs a comparison, the Dems candidate delivered a canned, edited speech. Trump delivered a live speech with a bit of improvisation.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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He was tired at the end, you could see it. But who wouldn't be?
I thought it touched on the topics that are winners for him really well. As I said, if he stays on message and doesn't get sidetracked down rabbit holes he should win. As nearly as I can see teh Democrats don't have a message other than we're not Trump.
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Independents took a huge swing toward Trump, to 52%.
I don't trust polls, though. I trust what I see. And I have yet to see the first Biden sign or bumper sticker I saw a video of a Biden rally made up of golf carts slowly inching their way down a street, and a Trump rally made up of hundreds of speed boats and thousands of people. I've seen more and more blacks for Trump videos. Tons of them.
I think the black vote for Trump this time is going to leave the democrats stunned. °fa-info°(information text)
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I remember my father being in disbelief that Clinton won in 96 because he didn’t know a single person who voted for him.
You were warned.
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Speech was too long and didn't have the typical Trump Fire throughout.
But if anybody needs a comparison, the Dems candidate delivered a canned, edited speech. Trump delivered a live speech with a bit of improvisation.
@Jolly said in Acceptance speech:
Speech was too long and didn't have the typical Trump Fire throughout.
But if anybody needs a comparison, the Dems candidate delivered a canned, edited speech. Trump delivered a live speech with a bit of improvisation.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/republican-convention-trump-nomination-speech-too-much-trump/
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I remember my father being in disbelief that Clinton won in 96 because he didn’t know a single person who voted for him.
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I remember my father being in disbelief that Clinton won in 96 because he didn’t know a single person who voted for him.
@jon-nyc said in Acceptance speech:
I remember my father being in disbelief that Clinton won in 96 because he didn’t know a single person who voted for him.
I didn't know a single person who voted for Mr. Nixon in 1972.
Mr. Nixon won 49 of 50 states.
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The speech is full of lies, exaggerations, and other falsehood, according to many fact-checkers. Samples below:
Fact-checking by NPR:
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/27/901381398/fact-check-trumps-address-to-the-republican-convention-annotatedFact-checking by Politifact:
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/aug/28/fact-checking-donald-trumps-2020-rnc-speech/Fact-checking by The Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/28/fact-checking-president-trumps-acceptance-speech-2020-rnc/Fact-checking by CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/politics/rnc-night-four-fact-check/index.htmlAs reported by Vox:
https://www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/8/28/21405325/trump-rnc-speech-fact-check-cnn-daniel-dale- “Trump said Joe Biden is ‘talking about taking down the border wall.’ Biden has specifically, explicitly rejected that idea. He just said he’ll stop further additional construction.”
- “Trump claimed, as always, that he is the one who passed the veterans’ choice law. Barack Obama signed that into law in 2014. Trump signed a 2018 law to modify it.”
- “Trump said, ‘I have done more for the African American community than any president since Abraham Lincoln.’ That is ludicrous. Lyndon Johnson, for one, signed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.”
- “Trump again touted a ‘record 9 million job gain over the past three months.’ He didn’t mention, as usual, that that gain follows a record 22 million job loss over the previous two months.”
- “He said he’ll ‘continue to lower drug prices.’ They’ve increased during his presidency.”
- “He said they opened a Jerusalem embassy for less than $500,000. Early documents show it was at least $21 million.”
- “He claimed NATO member spending has increased for the first time in about 20 years. Spending, in fact, rose in 2015 and in 2016, before he took office.”
- “He said he will always, and Republicans will always, strongly protect people with preexisting conditions. That pledge has already been broken. He and they have repeatedly tried to weaken those protections in Obamacare.”
- “He claimed again that he banned travel from China and Europe. No, he imposed partial restrictions with many exemptions. Tens of thousands of people continued traveling over.”
- “He boasted about the Covid testing system and about his general response. Look, experts nearly universally say the US was fatally slow in its response, especially slow in setting up adequate testing.”
- “He said he ended what he called ‘a NAFTA nightmare’ and he signed a brand new US-Mexico-Canada agreement — the USMCA. That agreement preserves, maintains most of NAFTA.”
- “He boasted about building about 300 miles of border wall. What he didn’t say is that most of that is replacement barrier. As of August 7, according to official data, just 5 miles had been built where none existed before.”
- “He suggested Joe Biden would confiscate guns. That’s baseless. Biden is running on a non-mandatory buyback of so-called assault weapons.”
- “He said Democrats want to defund the police. Biden, again, doesn’t, has rejected that.”
- “He said he has ‘very good information’ that China wants Biden to win because Biden is soft on China or cheerleads for China. The US intelligence community says China wants Biden to win because it sees Trump as unpredictable.”
- “He said Biden vowed to close down charter schools. Biden’s plan is skeptical on charters, but would not abolish them entirely.”
- “He denounced Biden for voting for the Iraq War. Biden did indeed vote for the Iraq War. But what Trump doesn’t mention is that he also supported that invasion.”
- “He said Democrats twice removed the word ‘God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance at their convention. Two individual caucus meetings outside the main primetime programming did leave it out, but it was uttered in every primetime event.”
- “Trump denounced so-called cancel culture as an insidious, left-wing thing. He, Donald J. Trump, has tried to get dozens of people and entities canceled, fired, boycotted, including literally, last week, Goodyear.”
- “He said he imposed an order to give 10 years in prison to rioters. That’s a maximum discretionary sentence up to judges, in existing laws. His order just asked the government to fully enforce.”
- “He said Biden’s plan would eliminate America’s borders. No. Just no. It’s wrong.”
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The speech is full of lies, exaggerations, and other falsehood, according to many fact-checkers. Samples below:
Fact-checking by NPR:
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/27/901381398/fact-check-trumps-address-to-the-republican-convention-annotatedFact-checking by Politifact:
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/aug/28/fact-checking-donald-trumps-2020-rnc-speech/Fact-checking by The Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/28/fact-checking-president-trumps-acceptance-speech-2020-rnc/Fact-checking by CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/politics/rnc-night-four-fact-check/index.htmlAs reported by Vox:
https://www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/8/28/21405325/trump-rnc-speech-fact-check-cnn-daniel-dale- “Trump said Joe Biden is ‘talking about taking down the border wall.’ Biden has specifically, explicitly rejected that idea. He just said he’ll stop further additional construction.”
- “Trump claimed, as always, that he is the one who passed the veterans’ choice law. Barack Obama signed that into law in 2014. Trump signed a 2018 law to modify it.”
- “Trump said, ‘I have done more for the African American community than any president since Abraham Lincoln.’ That is ludicrous. Lyndon Johnson, for one, signed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.”
- “Trump again touted a ‘record 9 million job gain over the past three months.’ He didn’t mention, as usual, that that gain follows a record 22 million job loss over the previous two months.”
- “He said he’ll ‘continue to lower drug prices.’ They’ve increased during his presidency.”
- “He said they opened a Jerusalem embassy for less than $500,000. Early documents show it was at least $21 million.”
- “He claimed NATO member spending has increased for the first time in about 20 years. Spending, in fact, rose in 2015 and in 2016, before he took office.”
- “He said he will always, and Republicans will always, strongly protect people with preexisting conditions. That pledge has already been broken. He and they have repeatedly tried to weaken those protections in Obamacare.”
- “He claimed again that he banned travel from China and Europe. No, he imposed partial restrictions with many exemptions. Tens of thousands of people continued traveling over.”
- “He boasted about the Covid testing system and about his general response. Look, experts nearly universally say the US was fatally slow in its response, especially slow in setting up adequate testing.”
- “He said he ended what he called ‘a NAFTA nightmare’ and he signed a brand new US-Mexico-Canada agreement — the USMCA. That agreement preserves, maintains most of NAFTA.”
- “He boasted about building about 300 miles of border wall. What he didn’t say is that most of that is replacement barrier. As of August 7, according to official data, just 5 miles had been built where none existed before.”
- “He suggested Joe Biden would confiscate guns. That’s baseless. Biden is running on a non-mandatory buyback of so-called assault weapons.”
- “He said Democrats want to defund the police. Biden, again, doesn’t, has rejected that.”
- “He said he has ‘very good information’ that China wants Biden to win because Biden is soft on China or cheerleads for China. The US intelligence community says China wants Biden to win because it sees Trump as unpredictable.”
- “He said Biden vowed to close down charter schools. Biden’s plan is skeptical on charters, but would not abolish them entirely.”
- “He denounced Biden for voting for the Iraq War. Biden did indeed vote for the Iraq War. But what Trump doesn’t mention is that he also supported that invasion.”
- “He said Democrats twice removed the word ‘God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance at their convention. Two individual caucus meetings outside the main primetime programming did leave it out, but it was uttered in every primetime event.”
- “Trump denounced so-called cancel culture as an insidious, left-wing thing. He, Donald J. Trump, has tried to get dozens of people and entities canceled, fired, boycotted, including literally, last week, Goodyear.”
- “He said he imposed an order to give 10 years in prison to rioters. That’s a maximum discretionary sentence up to judges, in existing laws. His order just asked the government to fully enforce.”
- “He said Biden’s plan would eliminate America’s borders. No. Just no. It’s wrong.”
@Axtremus said in Acceptance speech:
The speech is full of lies, exaggerations, and other falsehood, according to many fact-checkers. Samples below:
Fact-checking by NPR:
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/27/901381398/fact-check-trumps-address-to-the-republican-convention-annotatedFact-checking by Politifact:
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/aug/28/fact-checking-donald-trumps-2020-rnc-speech/Fact-checking by The Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/28/fact-checking-president-trumps-acceptance-speech-2020-rnc/Fact-checking by CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/politics/rnc-night-four-fact-check/index.htmlAs reported by Vox:
https://www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/8/28/21405325/trump-rnc-speech-fact-check-cnn-daniel-dale- “Trump said Joe Biden is ‘talking about taking down the border wall.’ Biden has specifically, explicitly rejected that idea. He just said he’ll stop further additional construction.”
- “Trump claimed, as always, that he is the one who passed the veterans’ choice law. Barack Obama signed that into law in 2014. Trump signed a 2018 law to modify it.”
- “Trump said, ‘I have done more for the African American community than any president since Abraham Lincoln.’ That is ludicrous. Lyndon Johnson, for one, signed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.”
- “Trump again touted a ‘record 9 million job gain over the past three months.’ He didn’t mention, as usual, that that gain follows a record 22 million job loss over the previous two months.”
- “He said he’ll ‘continue to lower drug prices.’ They’ve increased during his presidency.”
- “He said they opened a Jerusalem embassy for less than $500,000. Early documents show it was at least $21 million.”
- “He claimed NATO member spending has increased for the first time in about 20 years. Spending, in fact, rose in 2015 and in 2016, before he took office.”
- “He said he will always, and Republicans will always, strongly protect people with preexisting conditions. That pledge has already been broken. He and they have repeatedly tried to weaken those protections in Obamacare.”
- “He claimed again that he banned travel from China and Europe. No, he imposed partial restrictions with many exemptions. Tens of thousands of people continued traveling over.”
- “He boasted about the Covid testing system and about his general response. Look, experts nearly universally say the US was fatally slow in its response, especially slow in setting up adequate testing.”
- “He said he ended what he called ‘a NAFTA nightmare’ and he signed a brand new US-Mexico-Canada agreement — the USMCA. That agreement preserves, maintains most of NAFTA.”
- “He boasted about building about 300 miles of border wall. What he didn’t say is that most of that is replacement barrier. As of August 7, according to official data, just 5 miles had been built where none existed before.”
- “He suggested Joe Biden would confiscate guns. That’s baseless. Biden is running on a non-mandatory buyback of so-called assault weapons.”
- “He said Democrats want to defund the police. Biden, again, doesn’t, has rejected that.”
- “He said he has ‘very good information’ that China wants Biden to win because Biden is soft on China or cheerleads for China. The US intelligence community says China wants Biden to win because it sees Trump as unpredictable.”
- “He said Biden vowed to close down charter schools. Biden’s plan is skeptical on charters, but would not abolish them entirely.”
- “He denounced Biden for voting for the Iraq War. Biden did indeed vote for the Iraq War. But what Trump doesn’t mention is that he also supported that invasion.”
- “He said Democrats twice removed the word ‘God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance at their convention. Two individual caucus meetings outside the main primetime programming did leave it out, but it was uttered in every primetime event.”
- “Trump denounced so-called cancel culture as an insidious, left-wing thing. He, Donald J. Trump, has tried to get dozens of people and entities canceled, fired, boycotted, including literally, last week, Goodyear.”
- “He said he imposed an order to give 10 years in prison to rioters. That’s a maximum discretionary sentence up to judges, in existing laws. His order just asked the government to fully enforce.”
- “He said Biden’s plan would eliminate America’s borders. No. Just no. It’s wrong.”
Nothing on that list approaches the absolute disregard for honesty and decency displayed by Biden when he repeated the "fine people" lie, which is used to tarnish Trump and his supporters as white supremacist sympathizers.
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I looked into Ax's bullet points. Some a half truths that are spun into a pretzel, but most of them are either stupid or outright lies.
