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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:21 last edited by
    #206

    I mean, if Israel actually made money out of the deal, I might just have to emigrate…

    The Brad

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    • L LuFins Dad
      16 Oct 2024, 23:20

      I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:33 last edited by
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      @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

      I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

      On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • J jon-nyc
        16 Oct 2024, 23:33

        @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

        I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

        On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:51 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

        @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

        I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

        On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

        There's no way no one over there saw the potential irony, though. I mean just for starters you have terrorists paying to get taken out.

        Please love yourself.

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        • J jon-nyc
          16 Oct 2024, 23:33

          @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

          I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

          On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 00:28 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

          @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

          I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

          On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

          The planning and engineering is a wash as those employees doing the planning and engineering would still have been paid sitting on their asses saying “drone strike”

          Dear god, I think I might need to move to Israel.

          The Brad

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            bachophile
            wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 12:50 last edited by
            #210

            If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

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            • B bachophile
              17 Oct 2024, 12:50

              If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:31 last edited by
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              @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

              If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

              Where’s the best cheeseburger joint?

              The Brad

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                bachophile
                wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:35 last edited by
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                https://www.fatcow.co.il/?env=true

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:38 last edited by
                  #213

                  63?! I hope that’s in shekels, at least!

                  The Brad

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                    bachophile
                    wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:38 last edited by
                    #214

                    Shekels

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                      bachophile
                      wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:39 last edited by
                      #215

                      Divide by 4

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 14:19 last edited by
                        #216

                        "Fake Cow" 😄

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 18:16 last edited by
                          #217

                          Ok, I can deal with $15

                          The Brad

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                            17 Oct 2024, 14:19

                            "Fake Cow" 😄

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 18 Oct 2024, 17:25 last edited by
                            #218

                            @bachophile

                            Sorry for my ignorance, but is Israel like northern Europe where most people are pretty good in English even though it is not their native language?

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 18 Oct 2024, 21:15 last edited by jon-nyc
                              #219

                              Not even close. More like Italy or France.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                18 Oct 2024, 21:15

                                Not even close. More like Italy or France.

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 19 Oct 2024, 00:48 last edited by
                                #220

                                @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                Not even close. More like Italy or France.

                                thanks. I think it would be an interesting place to visit for history. I am good at making hand gestures to get my point across so not too worried about language. LOL

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                                • T taiwan_girl
                                  19 Oct 2024, 00:48

                                  @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                  Not even close. More like Italy or France.

                                  thanks. I think it would be an interesting place to visit for history. I am good at making hand gestures to get my point across so not too worried about language. LOL

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 19 Oct 2024, 00:51 last edited by
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                                  @taiwan_girl said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                  I am good at making hand gestures to get my point across so not too worried about language.

                                  OK then...

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    18 Oct 2024, 21:15

                                    Not even close. More like Italy or France.

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                                    bachophile
                                    wrote on 19 Oct 2024, 04:09 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc sorry but I think you are wrong there. I know Italy well and Israel is so much more Anglophile than Italy. Not even close.

                                    Of course it’s a question of degree but pretty much everyone has basic English and those with higher education have good English, because it’s an absolute requirement for admission to university. In any field.
                                    And even many who have perfect English. Almost accent less.

                                    It’s not just that. Israelis love all things American. It’s really different from Italy and esp France who seem to condescend to America. Israelis see America as a role model and try to emulate in many ways.

                                    Also it helps that a good chunk of the population has spent time in America.
                                    Also as opposed to Italy where tv and movies are dubbed, here everything is original language so all the kids grow up on original language media.

                                    Now in certain sectors, esp ultra orthodox, u may find people without any English but that’s outliers.

                                    So there you go

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                                      bachophile
                                      wrote on 19 Oct 2024, 04:29 last edited by
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                                      Btw TG, if you are really interested , the absolute best podcast on life here and it’s relationship with the Jewish diaspora, it’s called “unholy, two Jews on the news) available on all podcast media, and new episode every Friday. Mainly Current events analysis.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 19 Oct 2024, 19:05 last edited by
                                        #224

                                        @bachophile

                                        The EF English Proficiency Index puts them below Italy, Spain, and South Korea

                                        https://www.ef.edu/epi/

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        • B bachophile
                                          19 Oct 2024, 04:09

                                          @jon-nyc sorry but I think you are wrong there. I know Italy well and Israel is so much more Anglophile than Italy. Not even close.

                                          Of course it’s a question of degree but pretty much everyone has basic English and those with higher education have good English, because it’s an absolute requirement for admission to university. In any field.
                                          And even many who have perfect English. Almost accent less.

                                          It’s not just that. Israelis love all things American. It’s really different from Italy and esp France who seem to condescend to America. Israelis see America as a role model and try to emulate in many ways.

                                          Also it helps that a good chunk of the population has spent time in America.
                                          Also as opposed to Italy where tv and movies are dubbed, here everything is original language so all the kids grow up on original language media.

                                          Now in certain sectors, esp ultra orthodox, u may find people without any English but that’s outliers.

                                          So there you go

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 20 Oct 2024, 01:25 last edited by
                                          #225

                                          @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                          Italy where tv and movies are dubbed,

                                          I remember the first time I went to Italy and went to a movie. I was amazed at how good the dubbing was. It really looked like they were speaking Italian - they matched the mouth movements so well.

                                          @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                          the absolute best podcast on life here and it’s relationship with the Jewish diaspora, it’s called “unholy, two Jews on the news) available on all podcast media,

                                          Thanks!!

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