The Exploding Pagers
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:
I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…
On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.
@jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:
I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…
On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.
There's no way no one over there saw the potential irony, though. I mean just for starters you have terrorists paying to get taken out.
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:
I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…
On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.
@jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:
I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…
On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.
The planning and engineering is a wash as those employees doing the planning and engineering would still have been paid sitting on their asses saying “drone strike”
Dear god, I think I might need to move to Israel.
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If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.
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If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.
@bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:
If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.
Where’s the best cheeseburger joint?
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63?! I hope that’s in shekels, at least!
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Shekels
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Divide by 4
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Ok, I can deal with $15
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Sorry for my ignorance, but is Israel like northern Europe where most people are pretty good in English even though it is not their native language?
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Not even close. More like Italy or France.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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@jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:
Not even close. More like Italy or France.
thanks. I think it would be an interesting place to visit for history. I am good at making hand gestures to get my point across so not too worried about language. LOL
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@jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:
Not even close. More like Italy or France.
thanks. I think it would be an interesting place to visit for history. I am good at making hand gestures to get my point across so not too worried about language. LOL
@taiwan_girl said in The Exploding Pagers:
I am good at making hand gestures to get my point across so not too worried about language.
OK then...
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@jon-nyc sorry but I think you are wrong there. I know Italy well and Israel is so much more Anglophile than Italy. Not even close.
Of course it’s a question of degree but pretty much everyone has basic English and those with higher education have good English, because it’s an absolute requirement for admission to university. In any field.
And even many who have perfect English. Almost accent less.It’s not just that. Israelis love all things American. It’s really different from Italy and esp France who seem to condescend to America. Israelis see America as a role model and try to emulate in many ways.
Also it helps that a good chunk of the population has spent time in America.
Also as opposed to Italy where tv and movies are dubbed, here everything is original language so all the kids grow up on original language media.Now in certain sectors, esp ultra orthodox, u may find people without any English but that’s outliers.
So there you go
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The EF English Proficiency Index puts them below Italy, Spain, and South Korea
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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@jon-nyc sorry but I think you are wrong there. I know Italy well and Israel is so much more Anglophile than Italy. Not even close.
Of course it’s a question of degree but pretty much everyone has basic English and those with higher education have good English, because it’s an absolute requirement for admission to university. In any field.
And even many who have perfect English. Almost accent less.It’s not just that. Israelis love all things American. It’s really different from Italy and esp France who seem to condescend to America. Israelis see America as a role model and try to emulate in many ways.
Also it helps that a good chunk of the population has spent time in America.
Also as opposed to Italy where tv and movies are dubbed, here everything is original language so all the kids grow up on original language media.Now in certain sectors, esp ultra orthodox, u may find people without any English but that’s outliers.
So there you go
@bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:
Italy where tv and movies are dubbed,
I remember the first time I went to Italy and went to a movie. I was amazed at how good the dubbing was. It really looked like they were speaking Italian - they matched the mouth movements so well.
@bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:
the absolute best podcast on life here and it’s relationship with the Jewish diaspora, it’s called “unholy, two Jews on the news) available on all podcast media,
Thanks!!
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The EF English Proficiency Index puts them below Italy, Spain, and South Korea
@jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:
The EF English Proficiency Index puts them below Italy, Spain, and South Korea
I would like to know how they do that. Not sure I agree with it.
For example, India has 13(?) official languages but the one common one is English. I suppose if you look at the total population, including the poor, illiterate ones, then maybe.
Also, ranking South Korea above Thailand (and by quite a bit) does not match up with my experience. Of course, Thailand has a much larger population of poor people, so that may dis-help with the ranking.
