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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Horace:

    Because everybody is honor bound to respond to your wacky redirections, as you wriggle around in denial and wish casting. I know how this goes.

    Also Horace:

    So the unequivocal tribe he belongs to, is the TDS tribe, consumed by all those mainstream existential threat narratives.

    Maybe you’re projecting?

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    @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

    Horace:

    Because everybody is honor bound to respond to your wacky redirections, as you wriggle around in denial and wish casting. I know how this goes.

    Also Horace:

    So the unequivocal tribe he belongs to, is the TDS tribe, consumed by all those mainstream existential threat narratives.

    Maybe you’re projecting?

    I don't think either of us know where you are finding the contradiction. The guy posted about Trump's existential threat to democracy, that spells TDS. If you want to claim that Vivek trades in existential threat narratives, I won't disagree. I didn't claim TDS was the only source of existential threat narratives, but it is clearly the most pervasive and widely accepted. You don't actually have a point here, other than to get people talking about something other than the fact that this would be assassin is in your TDS tribe. Not that you're going to admit that.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @George-K said in Another shooting at Trump:

      @George-K said in Another shooting at Trump:

      FB has scrubbed his account...

      But X did not...

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      George K
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      #34

      @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

      @George-K said in Another shooting at Trump:

      @George-K said in Another shooting at Trump:

      FB has scrubbed his account...

      But X did not...

      Took 'em long enough, LOL.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
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        Not crazy, at all...

        22 years ago.

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Horace
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          #36

          Mainstream TDS. "Hates Trump like all reasonable people" - shooter's son. The extremism ("Hate") and the mainstream ("all reasonable people") are right there on the tin.

          Education is extremely important.

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            George K
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            #37

            "Does one of us have to come out alive?"

            Kathy Griffin not available for comment.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              #38

              What I haven’t heard is what did he actually do.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                jon-nyc
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                #39

                Yeah, no real sense of what happened. Where he was, where Trump was, who shot first, etc. Maybe it’s out there now I just woke up.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  Jolly
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                  #40

                  Secret Service opened fire when they saw him lift his rifle. Trump was on the fifth hole, on or around the green. Reports vary, but the would be assassin was somewhere around 300 yards away (some say as much as 500).

                  Suspect fled the scene in a white vehicle and was caught by law enforcement on the highway. Officers found a scoped AK-47 style rifle, a Go-Pro and ceramic plates where the suspect left them.

                  EDIT: vehicle was a black Nissan.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #41

                    Ceramic plates? What, body armor?

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      Didn't specify, but that would be my guess.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Secret Service opened fire when they saw him lift his rifle. Trump was on the fifth hole, on or around the green. Reports vary, but the would be assassin was somewhere around 300 yards away (some say as much as 500).

                        Suspect fled the scene in a white vehicle and was caught by law enforcement on the highway. Officers found a scoped AK-47 style rifle, a Go-Pro and ceramic plates where the suspect left them.

                        EDIT: vehicle was a black Nissan.

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                        @Jolly said in Another shooting at Trump:

                        Trump was on the fifth hole, on or around the green. Reports vary, but the would be assassin was somewhere around 300 yards away (some say as much as 500).

                        @Copper it's much easier to picture these shooting distances now that we're talking about golf yardage!

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                          George K
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Jolly
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                            May just be pure BS, but Trump supposedly quipped after being dogpiled and whisked away, that the guy screwed up him getting a birdie on the 5th hole.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              FOX 's interview with the sheriff brought some clarity. The Secret Service saw the barrel of the gun and immediately opened fire. He does not think the would be assassin fired, but that forensics is examining the guns and the site today and the report will be forthcoming. There is also drone footage being currently reviewed.

                              The suspect fled immediately after being shot at.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                I think it’s obvious the guy is simply anti-establishment. He supported Trump in 16 because he was attacking the established party control on both sides. When Trump turned out to be just a different type of Swamp monster, he just moved on and on…

                                The Brad

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                                  Jolly
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                                  #48

                                  Personal comment...

                                  Of all rifles to attempt a 300-500 yard shot, I would not pick an AK. They have pinned barrels and accuracy of about 3 MOA in 7.62x39 (most common caliber). That means about 9 inches at 300 yards and 15 inches at 500 yards, even with a good scope.

                                  Also the 122 - 124g bullet (typical bullet weight) drops a good bit.

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                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Horace
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                                    I don't think his goal was a 300 yard shot. That's just the distance he was from Trump at the time he was foiled by our ever-prepared Secret Service.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      I think it’s obvious the guy is simply anti-establishment. He supported Trump in 16 because he was attacking the established party control on both sides. When Trump turned out to be just a different type of Swamp monster, he just moved on and on…

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Another shooting at Trump:

                                      I think it’s obvious the guy is simply anti-establishment. He supported Trump in 16 because he was attacking the established party control on both sides. When Trump turned out to be just a different type of Swamp monster, he just moved on and on…

                                      I am sure he was chaotically anti-establishment at times, but the most obvious thing about him is that he was all-in on existential threat narratives. Because he said so, and because that one overriding concern had him rooting strongly for the establishment.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Horace
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                                        My guess is that this'll be another situation where, if the assassin had been moderately well trained, we'd have had a dead Trump. Just like last time. Getting caught because you poked the barrel out of the fence? Maybe don't do that next time.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          George K
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                                          #52

                                          Go after the family...

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                                          This guys (now deleted) X profile tells us to "Bring the JOY!"

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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