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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/astronaut-names-the-manmade-structure-that-made-him-realise-earth-s-big-lie/ar-AA1qjgcH?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=251717dac1824e8488f00eb48a7a494a&ei=33

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      Man that took a while to get to the point, and an underwhelming point at that. Talk about click bait titles. Not your fault @Mik it was an interesting observation from the astronaut.

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        Seeing the Earth from outer space can have a huge psychological impact on people, and completely change the way they perceive the world when they touch back down on terra firma.

        That is kind of short sighted too.

        There is a big universe out there.

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          For some reason, MSN website does not open for me.

          What was the answer? 🤔

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            For some reason, MSN website does not open for me.

            What was the answer? 🤔

            89th8 Offline
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            @taiwan_girl said in Planetary:

            For some reason, MSN website does not open for me.

            What was the answer? 🤔

            TL;DR - He could see country borders from space via lights, and it means we don't see ourselves as planetary.


            The article, emphasis mine:

            Seeing the Earth from outer space can have a huge psychological impact on people, and completely change the way they perceive the world when they touch back down on terra firma.

            One person who has been open about their life-changing experiences is former astronaut Ronald Garan, who formerly spent 178 days outside the Earth’s atmosphere as a space cadet for NASA.

            Garan spoke about his experiences and mentioned the one manmade structure he saw while travelling in space that changed his perception of mankind.

            He saw a line of lights across Asia and realised it was the border between India and Pakistan – which made him think humans were "living a lie".

            Speaking at a TED talk back in 2016, he said: "Initially, I wrote this off as a strange reflection of moonlight on a river. I was very intrigued. It turns out that this was not a natural reflection at all.
            "I've always said that you can't see borders from space, apparently I was wrong. The Earth, when viewed from space, almost always looks beautiful and peaceful. But was this an example of manmade changes to the landscape that was clearly visible from space."

            Garan has also spoken before about the overview effect, which led to him having a “sobering realisation”.

            NASA themselves arguably put it best when discussing the overview effect when they said it’s the “impact of looking down at the Earth from above, and how it can create a shift in the way astronauts view and think about our planet and life itself”.

            Speaking to Big Think, Garan said he realised that “we’re living a lie”.

            He explained: “We keep trying to deal with issues such as global warming, deforestation [and] biodiversity loss as stand-alone issues when in reality they’re just symptoms of the underlying root problem and the problem is, that we don’t see ourselves as planetary.”

            He added: “I saw the paparazzi-like flashes of lightning storms, I saw dancing curtains of auroras that seemed so close it was if we could reach out and touch them and I saw the unbelievable thinness of our planet’s atmosphere.”

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              He did take the long way home, but I think there is something to what he says. In context, I don’t think world leaders have ever in history thought more globally than they do today. A lot of it is just angling for advantage, but I think it is still true more than ever.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Okay. I agree with what he is saying.

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