Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 03:31 last edited by
Trump kept retreating to the illegal immigration point over and over and over, regardless of topic. It got old, quick. I think Harris remained silent as Trump echoed the same points and I bet voters are tired of that old script.
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 03:35 last edited by
So what I learned tonight - Kamala is a gun owning proponent of fracking that loves George Bush and is super proud to be endorsed by Dick Cheney. Did I get that right?
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So what I learned tonight - Kamala is a gun owning proponent of fracking that loves George Bush and is super proud to be endorsed by Dick Cheney. Did I get that right?
wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 03:45 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:
So what I learned tonight - Kamala is a gun owning proponent of fracking that loves George Bush and is super proud to be endorsed by Dick Cheney. Did I get that right?
Pretty close.
And ABC never called her on it.
Rumor is, WaPo is saying Harris wants another debate. That means her camp doesn't think she did well enough tonight.
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 03:50 last edited by
@Copper said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:
cnn commentators love Harris, she can do no wrong, she is superwoman
We listened to the last half hour on NPR driving home. Unbelievable bias.
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Trump kept retreating to the illegal immigration point over and over and over, regardless of topic. It got old, quick. I think Harris remained silent as Trump echoed the same points and I bet voters are tired of that old script.
wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 03:50 last edited by@89th said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:
Trump kept retreating to the illegal immigration point over and over and over, regardless of topic. It got old, quick. I think Harris remained silent as Trump echoed the same points and I bet voters are tired of that old script.
I am.
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Some thoughts...
Harris was very prepared. But Jesus, that whiny, nasal voice.
Trump did not have his best night.
The worst performer of the night was ABC. They would not ask Harris about previous policy positions and I thought helped her out with some questions. I thought some of his questions were much tougher.
wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 03:54 last edited by xenon 9 Nov 2024, 03:55@Jolly said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:
But Jesus, that whiny, nasal voice.
My wife is not politically engaged. I had the debate on and she would glance here and there.
This is the only comment she made - something about Kamala was off-putting.
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Some thoughts...
Harris was very prepared. But Jesus, that whiny, nasal voice.
Trump did not have his best night.
The worst performer of the night was ABC. They would not ask Harris about previous policy positions and I thought helped her out with some questions. I thought some of his questions were much tougher.
wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 04:41 last edited by@Jolly said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:
Some thoughts...
Harris was very prepared. But Jesus, that whiny, nasal voice.
Trump did not have his best night.
I watched maybe 10 early minutes. Honestly my first thought about him was he looked better than normal. I think the shock of hair he keeps across the top front was reduced in size and to good effect. My first thought about her was, like you, the voice being irksome. In the few minutes of discussion I saw, both showed they were well practiced in ignoring the specifics of a question and getting their talking points in.
I decided I could take it no longer and switched to Andrew Sullivan’s latest podcast for the rest of my ride home, figuring any good/bad moments I could hear about tomorrow.
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 04:55 last edited by
I thought it was interesting that Kamala is the worst vice president in the history of the country. I’ve never seen any reporting on that in the MSM.
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 04:57 last edited by jon-nyc 9 Nov 2024, 04:58
We had a sitting vice president that murdered Alexander Hamilton. Maybe that was even worse the what Kamala did.
You know, just asking questions.
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 11:06 last edited by
Only watched small parts of the debate.
Trump ignored facts and logic and just made shit up, but his sentences were easy to parse and evoke emotions.
Harris was grounded in facts and logic, but her sentences were long and required more thinking to parse -- more Lincoln-Douglasesque but alas, this is the era of sound bites.
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 11:07 last edited by
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 11:19 last edited by
As for Harris' facial expressions, I normally expect a trained lawyer to be more disciplined at maintaining a poker face. :man-shrugging:
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@LuFins-Dad said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:
So what I learned tonight - Kamala is a gun owning proponent of fracking that loves George Bush and is super proud to be endorsed by Dick Cheney. Did I get that right?
Pretty close.
And ABC never called her on it.
Rumor is, WaPo is saying Harris wants another debate. That means her camp doesn't think she did well enough tonight.
wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 11:34 last edited by@Jolly said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:
And ABC never called her on it.
Or on these comments:
- Repeated the "bloodbath" lie,
- Claimed that couples are currently being denied IVF treatment due to "Trump Abortion Ban" laws,
- Said Trump would sign a national abortion ban,
- Claimed that Project 2025 is Donald Trump's plan,
- Repeated the "fine people on both sides" lie,
- Lied about the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity,
- Said Trump would "terminate" the Constitution if he's re-elected,
- Talked out of both sides of her mouth about the Afghanistan withdrawal and whose plan it was,
- Asserted that 140 police officers were hurt by violent rallygoers on January 6, 2021,
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Only watched small parts of the debate.
Trump ignored facts and logic and just made shit up, but his sentences were easy to parse and evoke emotions.
Harris was grounded in facts and logic, but her sentences were long and required more thinking to parse -- more Lincoln-Douglasesque but alas, this is the era of sound bites.
wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 11:34 last edited by@Axtremus said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:
her sentences were long and required more thinking to parse
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 11:47 last edited by
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 12:22 last edited by
Just scanning headlines and twitter. It’s hard to find anyone who thinks Trump won except people whose job it is to say Trump won.
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Just scanning headlines and twitter. It’s hard to find anyone who thinks Trump won except people whose job it is to say Trump won.
wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 12:31 last edited by George K 9 Nov 2024, 12:32@jon-nyc said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:
Just scanning headlines and twitter. It’s hard to find anyone who thinks Trump won except people whose job it is to say Trump won.
Yup. The RWEC is saying she "came prepared," "exceeded expectations."
Rumor is she wants another.
Let's do it on Fox News this time, LOL.
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 12:37 last edited by
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 12:52 last edited by
Reuters Reporter sat with 10 undecideds, all pretty much agreed Kamala won, but 6 of the 10 left leaning more towards Trump. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/some-undecided-voters-not-convinced-by-harris-after-debate-with-trump/ar-AA1qmVYz
The thing is he has less to lose in these debates. Everybody pretty much knows he’s a sleazy asshole. Kamala pretty much just attacked him while providing little or no policy substance beyond her child tax credit and vagaries about building more homes…
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wrote on 11 Sept 2024, 12:57 last edited by
