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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @jon-nyc absolutely not, but at that point the debate was only 10 minutes old and the response was 2 minutes of it. I’ve watched more since then, and every single time he’s talked, she’s done the same thing. It’s very distracting and not endearing…

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    @LuFins-Dad said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

    @jon-nyc absolutely not, but at that point the debate was only 10 minutes old and the response was 2 minutes of it. I’ve watched more since then, and every single time he’s talked, she’s done the same thing. It’s very distracting and not endearing…

    Rehearsed body language and facial expressions meant to convey joyful sneering condescension.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Oh God, she said "Fine people" in Charlottesville.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        Oh God, she said "Fine people" in Charlottesville.

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        @George-K said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

        Oh God, she said "Fine people" in Charlottesville.

        But it doesn’t matter, these moderators aren’t going to call her on it.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          Trump let her lead him down a rabbit hole when he could have given much better answers.

          She’s done okay on her answers for the most part, but the facial expressions when he’s talking are hurting her.

          The Brad

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            I'm biased, but she simply doesn't look presidential to me.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Some thoughts...

              Harris was very prepared. But Jesus, that whiny, nasal voice. 🤢

              Trump did not have his best night.

              The worst performer of the night was ABC. They would not ask Harris about previous policy positions and I thought helped her out with some questions. I thought some of his questions were much tougher.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                I just woke up I time to hear the Israeli news say what jolly said (minus the nasal voice) she was prepared. Trump was vague and meandering.

                Not a knockout. But a Harris win on points.

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                  I thought they both did what they had to do. She was coherent- which her boss was not. He didn’t make any big flubs and was on message with he’ll make everything great again. But given polling, that’s a win for him.

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                    Trump kept retreating to the illegal immigration point over and over and over, regardless of topic. It got old, quick. I think Harris remained silent as Trump echoed the same points and I bet voters are tired of that old script.

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                      So what I learned tonight - Kamala is a gun owning proponent of fracking that loves George Bush and is super proud to be endorsed by Dick Cheney. Did I get that right?

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        So what I learned tonight - Kamala is a gun owning proponent of fracking that loves George Bush and is super proud to be endorsed by Dick Cheney. Did I get that right?

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                        So what I learned tonight - Kamala is a gun owning proponent of fracking that loves George Bush and is super proud to be endorsed by Dick Cheney. Did I get that right?

                        Pretty close.

                        And ABC never called her on it.

                        Rumor is, WaPo is saying Harris wants another debate. That means her camp doesn't think she did well enough tonight.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          cnn commentators love Harris, she can do no wrong, she is superwoman

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                          @Copper said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                          cnn commentators love Harris, she can do no wrong, she is superwoman

                          We listened to the last half hour on NPR driving home. Unbelievable bias.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            Trump kept retreating to the illegal immigration point over and over and over, regardless of topic. It got old, quick. I think Harris remained silent as Trump echoed the same points and I bet voters are tired of that old script.

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                            @89th said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                            Trump kept retreating to the illegal immigration point over and over and over, regardless of topic. It got old, quick. I think Harris remained silent as Trump echoed the same points and I bet voters are tired of that old script.

                            I am.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Some thoughts...

                              Harris was very prepared. But Jesus, that whiny, nasal voice. 🤢

                              Trump did not have his best night.

                              The worst performer of the night was ABC. They would not ask Harris about previous policy positions and I thought helped her out with some questions. I thought some of his questions were much tougher.

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                              @Jolly said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                              But Jesus, that whiny, nasal voice. 🤢

                              My wife is not politically engaged. I had the debate on and she would glance here and there.

                              This is the only comment she made - something about Kamala was off-putting.

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Some thoughts...

                                Harris was very prepared. But Jesus, that whiny, nasal voice. 🤢

                                Trump did not have his best night.

                                The worst performer of the night was ABC. They would not ask Harris about previous policy positions and I thought helped her out with some questions. I thought some of his questions were much tougher.

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                                @Jolly said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                Some thoughts...

                                Harris was very prepared. But Jesus, that whiny, nasal voice. 🤢

                                Trump did not have his best night.

                                I watched maybe 10 early minutes. Honestly my first thought about him was he looked better than normal. I think the shock of hair he keeps across the top front was reduced in size and to good effect. My first thought about her was, like you, the voice being irksome. In the few minutes of discussion I saw, both showed they were well practiced in ignoring the specifics of a question and getting their talking points in.

                                I decided I could take it no longer and switched to Andrew Sullivan’s latest podcast for the rest of my ride home, figuring any good/bad moments I could hear about tomorrow.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  I thought it was interesting that Kamala is the worst vice president in the history of the country. I’ve never seen any reporting on that in the MSM.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    #39

                                    We had a sitting vice president that murdered Alexander Hamilton. Maybe that was even worse the what Kamala did.

                                    You know, just asking questions.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      Only watched small parts of the debate.

                                      Trump ignored facts and logic and just made shit up, but his sentences were easy to parse and evoke emotions.

                                      Harris was grounded in facts and logic, but her sentences were long and required more thinking to parse -- more Lincoln-Douglasesque but alas, this is the era of sound bites.

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                                          As for Harris' facial expressions, I normally expect a trained lawyer to be more disciplined at maintaining a poker face. :man-shrugging:

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