Pets For Dinner
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@jon-nyc said in Pets For Dinner:
Local employers say the Haitians are a big uptick from the locals.
So the counter is Haitians are better than regular Ohioans/Americans? Let me know how well that works at the polls.
@LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:
@jon-nyc said in Pets For Dinner:
Local employers say the Haitians are a big uptick from the locals.
So the counter is Haitians are better than regular Ohioans/Americans? Let me know how well that works at the polls.
It's selection bias anyway. Those workers probably represent the upper crust of the immigrants, while the local workers at similar jobs probably represent the lower crust of their group.
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@jon-nyc said in Pets For Dinner:
The town can’t afford it.
The could try cat farming.
Keep whistling…
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@LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:
It’s not about whether they are eating the animals.
Not, it's about whether people listen to Trump's racist dog whistle or not. And clearly they will.
Sorry, sorry, we're not allowed to say it's racist. That's hopelessly left wing and stupid. Anti Haitian immigrant dog whistle.
I was only joking
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@LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:
It’s not about whether they are eating the animals.
Not, it's about whether people listen to Trump's racist dog whistle or not. And clearly they will.
Sorry, sorry, we're not allowed to say it's racist. That's hopelessly left wing and stupid. Anti Haitian immigrant dog whistle.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Pets For Dinner:
@LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:
It’s not about whether they are eating the animals.
Not, it's about whether people listen to Trump's racist dog whistle or not. And clearly they will.
Sorry, sorry, we're not allowed to say it's racist. That's hopelessly left wing and stupid. Anti Haitian immigrant dog whistle.
Are we anti-Haitian immigrant? No, we're not.
We do have a problem when you dump 20,000 non-English speaking immigrants into a town of 50,000 people.
How'd you enjoy that?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Pets For Dinner:
@LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:
It’s not about whether they are eating the animals.
Not, it's about whether people listen to Trump's racist dog whistle or not. And clearly they will.
Sorry, sorry, we're not allowed to say it's racist. That's hopelessly left wing and stupid. Anti Haitian immigrant dog whistle.
Are we anti-Haitian immigrant? No, we're not.
We do have a problem when you dump 20,000 non-English speaking immigrants into a town of 50,000 people.
How'd you enjoy that?
@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
Are we anti-Haitian immigrant? No, we're not.
So stop making up stories about them eating pets. Address the actual problem.
I was only joking
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Citizens of a country or a city being protective and proud of their culture will inevitably be framed as xenophobia and racism, but those conversations are being had all across the western world. The only people not allowed by western progressives to be proud and protective of their culture, are westerners themselves.
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Citizens of a country or a city being protective and proud of their culture will inevitably be framed as xenophobia and racism, but those conversations are being had all across the western world. The only people not allowed by western progressives to be proud and protective of their culture, are westerners themselves.
@Horace said in Pets For Dinner:
Citizens of a country or a city being protective and proud of their culture will inevitably be framed as xenophobia and racism, but those conversations are being had all across the western world. The only people not allowed by western progressives to be proud and protective of their culture, are westerners themselves.
Right, so people making up stories about immigrants eating pets or, to take another recent example, murdering young girls, is just a reflection of cultural pride.
Lying about problems actually undermines perfectly good arguments to limit illegal (and for that matter, legal) immigration.
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@Horace said in Pets For Dinner:
Citizens of a country or a city being protective and proud of their culture will inevitably be framed as xenophobia and racism, but those conversations are being had all across the western world. The only people not allowed by western progressives to be proud and protective of their culture, are westerners themselves.
Right, so people making up stories about immigrants eating pets or, to take another recent example, murdering young girls, is just a reflection of cultural pride.
Lying about problems actually undermines perfectly good arguments to limit illegal (and for that matter, legal) immigration.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Pets For Dinner:
@Horace said in Pets For Dinner:
Citizens of a country or a city being protective and proud of their culture will inevitably be framed as xenophobia and racism, but those conversations are being had all across the western world. The only people not allowed by western progressives to be proud and protective of their culture, are westerners themselves.
Right, so people making up stories about immigrants eating pets or, to take another recent example, murdering young girls, is just a reflection of cultural pride.
Lying about problems actually undermines good arguments to limit immigration.
There is, in fact, such a thing as crime by illegal immigrants. Those stories tend to be systematically swept under the rug in reporting.
Education is extremely important.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Pets For Dinner:
@LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:
It’s not about whether they are eating the animals.
Not, it's about whether people listen to Trump's racist dog whistle or not. And clearly they will.
Sorry, sorry, we're not allowed to say it's racist. That's hopelessly left wing and stupid. Anti Haitian immigrant dog whistle.
Are we anti-Haitian immigrant? No, we're not.
We do have a problem when you dump 20,000 non-English speaking immigrants into a town of 50,000 people.
How'd you enjoy that?
@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
We do have a problem when you dump 20,000 non-English speaking immigrants into a town of 50,000 people.
My understanding is that didn’t happen. Most came by word of mouth as there were blue collar jobs to be had there.
The population dwindled to less than 60,000 by 2014, from more than 80,000 in 1960.
Around that time, Springfield crafted a strategic plan to attract business. City leaders pitched the town’s affordability, its work force development programs and its location, smack-dab between Columbus and Dayton and accessible to two interstates.
In 2017, Topre, a major Japanese auto parts manufacturer, picked Springfield for a new plant in a decaying part of town that had been the site of International Harvester, a farm equipment manufacturer that was once the biggest employer.
By 2020, Springfield had lured food-service firms, logistics companies and a microchip maker, among others, creating an estimated 8,000 new jobs and optimism for the future.“It was incredible to witness the transformation of our community,” said Horton Hobbs, vice president of economic development for the Greater Springfield Partnership, which executed the plan.
But soon there were not enough workers. Many young, working-age people had descended into addiction. Others shunned entry-level, rote work altogether, employers said.
Haitians who heard that the Springfield area boasted well-paying, blue-collar jobs and a low cost of living poured in, and employers were eager to hire and train the new work force.
I agree that kind of influx is destabilizing and I wouldn’t wish it on my town. But to think this was a top down decision is not correct.
