Pets For Dinner
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@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
… to reinstate a form of slavery.
Really? Have you evidence that these immigrants have had their freedoms taken from them?
wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 12:36 last edited by LuFins Dad@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
… to reinstate a form of slavery.
Really? Have you evidence that these immigrants have had their freedoms taken from them?
I’ve posted about it like 7-8 times. Google Asra Nomani articles.
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@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
… to reinstate a form of slavery.
Really? Have you evidence that these immigrants have had their freedoms taken from them?
I’ve posted about it like 7-8 times. Google Asra Nomani articles.
wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 17:51 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:
@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
… to reinstate a form of slavery.
Really? Have you evidence that these immigrants have had their freedoms taken from them?
I’ve posted about it like 7-8 times. Google Asra Nomani articles.
Ignore him. He's not reading half or else he's asking the questions just to provoke.
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wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 19:26 last edited by
@LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:
I have read through this article. It speaks of migrant labors working with very low pay and living in very poor conditions. It cites no instance of a worker being abducted there against his will, no instance of a worker disallowed to not work a particular against his will, not even an instance of a worker being paid below statutory minimum wage. It describes poor people living a hard life, it does not describe slavery.
Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.
Also, none of the conditions, even the alleged ones (and the word "alleged" does appear many times in the article), is helped by Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:
I have read through this article. It speaks of migrant labors working with very low pay and living in very poor conditions. It cites no instance of a worker being abducted there against his will, no instance of a worker disallowed to not work a particular against his will, not even an instance of a worker being paid below statutory minimum wage. It describes poor people living a hard life, it does not describe slavery.
Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.
Also, none of the conditions, even the alleged ones (and the word "alleged" does appear many times in the article), is helped by Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.
wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 19:38 last edited by@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.
I think that does meet a definition of slavery. At the least, it meets a definition of indentured servitude. People are deliberately being placed in situations where they can't say no and where the wages paid are substandard for the work.
It becomes an endless cycle for poverty, and it takes jobs from American citizens, making it a twofer, giving a screwing to both sides of the populance.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:
I have read through this article. It speaks of migrant labors working with very low pay and living in very poor conditions. It cites no instance of a worker being abducted there against his will, no instance of a worker disallowed to not work a particular against his will, not even an instance of a worker being paid below statutory minimum wage. It describes poor people living a hard life, it does not describe slavery.
Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.
Also, none of the conditions, even the alleged ones (and the word "alleged" does appear many times in the article), is helped by Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.
wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 19:41 last edited by Jolly@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.
Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.
Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.
Now, all
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@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.
Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.
Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.
Now, all
are on Springfield.wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 19:46 last edited by@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.
Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.
Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.
Now, all
are on Springfield.And made things worse for Springfield.
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@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.
Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.
Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.
Now, all
are on Springfield.And made things worse for Springfield.
wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 19:49 last edited by@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.
Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.
Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.
Now, all
are on Springfield.And made things worse for Springfield.
Did it?
How?
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@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.
Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.
Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.
Now, all
are on Springfield.And made things worse for Springfield.
Did it?
How?
wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 20:21 last edited by@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.
Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.
Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.
Now, all
are on Springfield.And made things worse for Springfield.
Did it?
How?
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wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 20:26 last edited by
I look at that as a feature, not a bug. All eyes are on Springfield and now the public is talking about the problem in other places.
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wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 20:48 last edited by Horace
The important thing is that the white saviors (and, I guess, Asian saviors) who've never set foot in Springfield, are very, very worried about the psychological damage done to the Haitians in Springfield.
They are able to take time off their busy schedules of convincing America-born blacks that the country hates them, to spare this compassion for the Haitians in Springfield. It's an impressive multi-tasking of their virtue.
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@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.
I think that does meet a definition of slavery. At the least, it meets a definition of indentured servitude. People are deliberately being placed in situations where they can't say no and where the wages paid are substandard for the work.
It becomes an endless cycle for poverty, and it takes jobs from American citizens, making it a twofer, giving a screwing to both sides of the populance.
wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 20:56 last edited by@Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:
@Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:
Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.
I think that does meet a definition of slavery. At the least, it meets a definition of indentured servitude. People are deliberately being placed in situations where they can't say no and where the wages paid are substandard for the work.
It becomes an endless cycle for poverty, and it takes jobs from American citizens, making it a twofer, giving a screwing to both sides of the populance.
Sing with me…
Load 16 tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt…
Saint Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go. I owe my soul to the company store…. -
wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 11:30 last edited by
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wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 21:33 last edited by
Haitian nonprofit files criminal charges against Vance and Trump for Springfield claims
A Haitian nonprofit organization director wants to criminally charge Ohio Sen. JD Vance and former president Donald Trump for repeated claims without evidence about Haitian immigrants in Springfield eating pets.
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wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 21:36 last edited by
Bullshit.
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wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 22:09 last edited by jon-nyc
I can see a civil claim but criminal? And how do rando nonprofits file charges????
I have questions
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I can see a civil claim but criminal? And how do rando nonprofits file charges????
I have questions
wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 22:20 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Pets For Dinner:
I can see a civil claim but criminal?
(can't find it now)
Supposedly private citizens can press criminal charges in Ohio.
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wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 23:45 last edited by
Weird.
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wrote on 25 Sept 2024, 00:05 last edited by
In the meantime, Asra Nomani is now in Dayton, following the money.