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  • L LuFins Dad
    18 Sept 2024, 15:16

    In the meantime, more and more is coming out about the new business model of not outsourcing to third world countries, but to bring third world countries here, instead.

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 06:31 last edited by
    #179

    @LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:

    In the meantime, more and more is coming out about the new business model of not outsourcing to third world countries, but to bring third world countries here, instead.

    1. Keep the jobs in the USA,

    2. Prevent the population from shrinking, make up for below-replacement-level domestic birth rate.

    J 1 Reply Last reply 21 Sept 2024, 10:05
    • A Axtremus
      21 Sept 2024, 06:31

      @LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:

      In the meantime, more and more is coming out about the new business model of not outsourcing to third world countries, but to bring third world countries here, instead.

      1. Keep the jobs in the USA,

      2. Prevent the population from shrinking, make up for below-replacement-level domestic birth rate.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 10:05 last edited by
      #180

      Yes, the best thing the country can do, is to reinstate a form of slavery.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J Jolly
        21 Sept 2024, 10:05

        Yes, the best thing the country can do, is to reinstate a form of slavery.

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 10:50 last edited by
        #181

        @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

        … to reinstate a form of slavery.

        Really? Have you evidence that these immigrants have had their freedoms taken from them?

        L 1 Reply Last reply 21 Sept 2024, 12:36
        • A Axtremus
          21 Sept 2024, 10:50

          @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

          … to reinstate a form of slavery.

          Really? Have you evidence that these immigrants have had their freedoms taken from them?

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 12:36 last edited by LuFins Dad
          #182

          @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

          @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

          … to reinstate a form of slavery.

          Really? Have you evidence that these immigrants have had their freedoms taken from them?

          I’ve posted about it like 7-8 times. Google Asra Nomani articles.

          The Brad

          J 1 Reply Last reply 21 Sept 2024, 17:51
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 12:38 last edited by
            #183

            https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/375011/feds-and-state-ag-investigate-an-alleged-human-trafficking-empire-run-in-springfield-ohio/

            The Brad

            A 1 Reply Last reply 21 Sept 2024, 19:26
            • L LuFins Dad
              21 Sept 2024, 12:36

              @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

              @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

              … to reinstate a form of slavery.

              Really? Have you evidence that these immigrants have had their freedoms taken from them?

              I’ve posted about it like 7-8 times. Google Asra Nomani articles.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 17:51 last edited by
              #184

              @LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:

              @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

              @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

              … to reinstate a form of slavery.

              Really? Have you evidence that these immigrants have had their freedoms taken from them?

              I’ve posted about it like 7-8 times. Google Asra Nomani articles.

              Ignore him. He's not reading half or else he's asking the questions just to provoke.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • L LuFins Dad
                21 Sept 2024, 12:38

                https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/375011/feds-and-state-ag-investigate-an-alleged-human-trafficking-empire-run-in-springfield-ohio/

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 19:26 last edited by
                #185

                @LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:

                https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/375011/feds-and-state-ag-investigate-an-alleged-human-trafficking-empire-run-in-springfield-ohio/

                I have read through this article. It speaks of migrant labors working with very low pay and living in very poor conditions. It cites no instance of a worker being abducted there against his will, no instance of a worker disallowed to not work a particular against his will, not even an instance of a worker being paid below statutory minimum wage. It describes poor people living a hard life, it does not describe slavery.

                Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.

                Also, none of the conditions, even the alleged ones (and the word "alleged" does appear many times in the article), is helped by Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.

                J 2 Replies Last reply 21 Sept 2024, 19:38
                • A Axtremus
                  21 Sept 2024, 19:26

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:

                  https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/375011/feds-and-state-ag-investigate-an-alleged-human-trafficking-empire-run-in-springfield-ohio/

                  I have read through this article. It speaks of migrant labors working with very low pay and living in very poor conditions. It cites no instance of a worker being abducted there against his will, no instance of a worker disallowed to not work a particular against his will, not even an instance of a worker being paid below statutory minimum wage. It describes poor people living a hard life, it does not describe slavery.

                  Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.

                  Also, none of the conditions, even the alleged ones (and the word "alleged" does appear many times in the article), is helped by Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 19:38 last edited by
                  #186

                  @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                  Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.

                  I think that does meet a definition of slavery. At the least, it meets a definition of indentured servitude. People are deliberately being placed in situations where they can't say no and where the wages paid are substandard for the work.

                  It becomes an endless cycle for poverty, and it takes jobs from American citizens, making it a twofer, giving a screwing to both sides of the populance.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                  L 1 Reply Last reply 21 Sept 2024, 20:56
                  • A Axtremus
                    21 Sept 2024, 19:26

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Pets For Dinner:

                    https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/375011/feds-and-state-ag-investigate-an-alleged-human-trafficking-empire-run-in-springfield-ohio/

                    I have read through this article. It speaks of migrant labors working with very low pay and living in very poor conditions. It cites no instance of a worker being abducted there against his will, no instance of a worker disallowed to not work a particular against his will, not even an instance of a worker being paid below statutory minimum wage. It describes poor people living a hard life, it does not describe slavery.

                    Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.

                    Also, none of the conditions, even the alleged ones (and the word "alleged" does appear many times in the article), is helped by Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 19:41 last edited by Jolly
                    #187

                    @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                    Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.

                    Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.

                    Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.

                    Now, all 👀 are on Springfield.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      21 Sept 2024, 19:41

                      @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                      Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.

                      Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.

                      Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.

                      Now, all 👀 are on Springfield.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 19:46 last edited by
                      #188

                      @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

                      @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                      Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.

                      Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.

                      Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.

                      Now, all 👀 are on Springfield.

                      And made things worse for Springfield.

                      J 1 Reply Last reply 21 Sept 2024, 19:49
                      • A Axtremus
                        21 Sept 2024, 19:46

                        @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

                        @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                        Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.

                        Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.

                        Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.

                        Now, all 👀 are on Springfield.

                        And made things worse for Springfield.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 19:49 last edited by
                        #189

                        @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                        @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

                        @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                        Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.

                        Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.

                        Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.

                        Now, all 👀 are on Springfield.

                        And made things worse for Springfield.

                        Did it?

                        How?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                        A 1 Reply Last reply 21 Sept 2024, 20:21
                        • J Jolly
                          21 Sept 2024, 19:49

                          @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                          @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

                          @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                          Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.

                          Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.

                          Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.

                          Now, all 👀 are on Springfield.

                          And made things worse for Springfield.

                          Did it?

                          How?

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 20:21 last edited by
                          #190

                          @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

                          @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                          @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

                          @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                          Trump and Vance's rather irresponsible rhetoric. Heck, as DeWine states in his op-ed, Trump and Vance's rhetoric made things worse.

                          Without the rhetoric, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.

                          Remember, debates are all about snapshots and memorable quotes. Trump broke the internet with the dog and cat comment.

                          Now, all 👀 are on Springfield.

                          And made things worse for Springfield.

                          Did it?

                          How?

                          https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/300506

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 20:26 last edited by
                            #191

                            I look at that as a feature, not a bug. All eyes are on Springfield and now the public is talking about the problem in other places.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 20:48 last edited by Horace
                              #192

                              The important thing is that the white saviors (and, I guess, Asian saviors) who've never set foot in Springfield, are very, very worried about the psychological damage done to the Haitians in Springfield.

                              They are able to take time off their busy schedules of convincing America-born blacks that the country hates them, to spare this compassion for the Haitians in Springfield. It's an impressive multi-tasking of their virtue.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • J Jolly
                                21 Sept 2024, 19:38

                                @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                                Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.

                                I think that does meet a definition of slavery. At the least, it meets a definition of indentured servitude. People are deliberately being placed in situations where they can't say no and where the wages paid are substandard for the work.

                                It becomes an endless cycle for poverty, and it takes jobs from American citizens, making it a twofer, giving a screwing to both sides of the populance.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 21 Sept 2024, 20:56 last edited by
                                #193

                                @Jolly said in Pets For Dinner:

                                @Axtremus said in Pets For Dinner:

                                Feel free me to cite something concrete from the article that indicates "slavery" if you believe such credible evidence is provided in that article, in case I missed it.

                                I think that does meet a definition of slavery. At the least, it meets a definition of indentured servitude. People are deliberately being placed in situations where they can't say no and where the wages paid are substandard for the work.

                                It becomes an endless cycle for poverty, and it takes jobs from American citizens, making it a twofer, giving a screwing to both sides of the populance.

                                Sing with me…

                                Load 16 tons, what do you get?
                                Another day older and deeper in debt…
                                Saint Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go. I owe my soul to the company store….

                                The Brad

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 11:30 last edited by
                                  #194

                                  The dude performs this live.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 21:33 last edited by
                                    #195

                                    https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2024/09/24/haitian-nonprofit-wants-to-criminally-chargvance-and-trump-criminally-charged-for-springfield-claims/75362236007/

                                    Haitian nonprofit files criminal charges against Vance and Trump for Springfield claims

                                    A Haitian nonprofit organization director wants to criminally charge Ohio Sen. JD Vance and former president Donald Trump for repeated claims without evidence about Haitian immigrants in Springfield eating pets.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 21:36 last edited by
                                      #196

                                      Bullshit.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 22:09 last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #197

                                        I can see a civil claim but criminal? And how do rando nonprofits file charges????

                                        I have questions

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

                                        George KG 1 Reply Last reply 24 Sept 2024, 22:20
                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                                          24 Sept 2024, 22:09

                                          I can see a civil claim but criminal? And how do rando nonprofits file charges????

                                          I have questions

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 24 Sept 2024, 22:20 last edited by
                                          #198

                                          @jon-nyc said in Pets For Dinner:

                                          I can see a civil claim but criminal?

                                          (can't find it now)

                                          Supposedly private citizens can press criminal charges in Ohio.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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