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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    Not sure I understand the chart. What are the first two columns meaning?

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #6

      Date range of polling, and number/group. LV= likely voters

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Date range of polling, and number/group. LV= likely voters

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        @jon-nyc Sorry, I was. not more clear.

        "Electoral College Probability" and "Popular Vote Probability"

        Is the the % that they believe their final Electoral College Votes and Popular Vote are correct?

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          #8

          Respectively the probabilities his model assigns to winning/losing the electoral college and popular votes. NOT a prediction of the vote outcome (those are later columns)

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            Oh man, this is shaping to be one heck of a fun November. Wow I just realized I'll be at Disney World during it. LOL

            In 2016... I was at Bandon Dunes (golf) in Oregon, and woke up to the news of the Trump win.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              #10

              The betting markets shifted back to Trump, yesterday.

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                The betting markets shifted back to Trump, yesterday.

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                @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                The betting markets shifted back to Trump, yesterday.

                Please ask him to keep his mouth shut.

                Not one word.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  It’s the Crank Realignment RFK Jr endorsement.

                  Let’s remember RFK was at 20% some months ago and 2% last week. By Election Day he should be a 6pt drag.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    It’s the Crank Realignment RFK Jr endorsement.

                    Let’s remember RFK was at 20% some months ago and 2% last week. By Election Day he should be a 6pt drag.

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                    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                    It’s the Crank Realignment RFK Jr endorsement.

                    Let’s remember RFK was at 20% some months ago and 2% last week. By Election Day he should be a 6pt drag.

                    Your girl has already peaked, Jon. You know it.

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-consider-replacing-kamala-harris-with-more-coherent-joe-biden?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0SoU0RTh42IMUbffbO2xoRSejDznbHiK0Fa9Z94CkbmRZdcRV0QIxHP3g_aem_okC_d9yqg0HFbjlAVSaTGg

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        "More Coherent Joe Biden"

                        That's one damn long list...

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Who knows?

                          After her one interview, Kamala-lama-ding-dong may not do another. If she can keep the electorate from figuring out how goofy she is and the MSM keeps up the coronation music, all she has to do is survive the debate.

                          By that time, early voting starts and the Big Blue Machine kicks in. Throw in a jail sentence by Bragg's Boy and who knows what can happen?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            Silver’s pissing a lot of people off…

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                            The Brad

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              That surprises me.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Another silver polll, just sayin….

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                                  Another silver polll, just sayin….

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  @bachophile said in It’s starting:

                                  IMG_0036.png

                                  Another silver polll, just sayin….

                                  Not a poll, a model based on all the polls and statistical data. And that model and statistician was the only one that gave Trump anything over 5%, Silver was the lone voice that started going on TV and warning that the pundits were wrong, and that Trump was starting to gain momentum and posed a significant chance of winning. He got laughed at and insulted by The NY Times and WaPo.

                                  That model you point to doesn’t diminish my point or confidence, but actually reinforces it.

                                  https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2017/03/nate-silver-says-conventional-wisdom-not-data-killed-2016-election-forecasts/

                                  The Brad

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                                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/27/your-critique-that-fivethirtyeight-misfired-on-the-2016-race-is-wrong/

                                    The Brad

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                                      I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in It’s starting:

                                        I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

                                        No, but they change their donation intentions… If it’s a close race, donors might go a little higher. If it’s trending downwards, they might either substantially increase or substantially decrease their donations.

                                        The Brad

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                                          Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

                                          The Brad

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