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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 02:05 last edited by taiwan_girl
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    A not so complimentary view of the President Trump office. A book from HR McMaster

    In addition to being a highly decorated officer, McMaster also has a doctorate in history.

    and

    (Retired Gen.) HR McMaster was appearing on the telecast to promote his new book, “At War With Ourselves: My Tour of Duty in the Trump White House.” He is a retired Army lieutenant general who served as Trump’s national security adviser from February 2017 to April 2018. McMaster’s book, among other things, describes meetings in the White House as “exercises in competitive sycophancy.”

    In an excerpt published in the Wall Street Journal, McMaster lamented how Russian President Vladimir Putin pushed Trump’s buttons: “Putin, a ruthless former KGB operator, played to Trump’s ego and insecurities with flattery.”

    Among the revelations in his memoir, McMaster wrote that following the 2018 poisoning of former Russian military intelligence officer Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, Trump asked McMaster to send Vladimir Putin an “appreciative note” when he read a New York Post story titled “Putin heaps praise on Trump, pans US politics,” according to The Guardian.

    McMaster’s account of the Trump team is not pretty. Steve Bannon, Trump’s “chief strategist” early in the presidency, is portrayed as a “fawning court jester” who played “on Trump’s anxiety and sense of beleaguerment … with stories, mainly about who was out to get him and what he could do to ‘counterpunch.’”

    The final straw that ended McMaster’s tenure in the White House seems to have been when he publicly said on February 17, 2018, at the Munich Security Forum — the annual gathering of top Western foreign policy officials — that the indictment of a group of Russian intelligence officers for their interference in the 2016 US presidential election was “inconvertible” evidence of Russian meddling in that election.

    As has been discussed here before, I do not think that there has ever been a previous president administration where so many high ranking people with day to day heavy interaction with the president have said that he is not very capable. :eek

    If it were just one person, or if it were the wife of a friend of a friend who is the gardener at the White House, it could be said that it is just sour talk. But when pretty respected people like McMaster, Mattis, Bolton, Kelly, Tillerson, etc. say it, there is probably some fire along with the smoke.

    (I may or may not agree with their politics, but I trust their feedback on working with President Trump more than I would trust the feedback of someone like Tucker Carlson. LOL)

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      Jolly
      wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 03:21 last edited by
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      Gee, promoting book sales. Okay.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 12:29 last edited by
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        I read that of the 41 people who held cabinet-level roles in his administration, 2/3 have come out against him.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 12:34 last edited by
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          Good money in that business.

          The Brad

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            27 Aug 2024, 12:34

            Good money in that business.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 12:37 last edited by
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            @LuFins-Dad said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

            Good money in that business.

            Right, so either Trump is an awful grifter, or 2/3 of the people he picks to be in his team are awful grifters.

            a/k/a - Hobson's choice.

            I was only joking

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              Jolly
              wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 12:37 last edited by
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              Yep. Especially when nobody will hire you after you pen one of those. Better make the first one sell.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                27 Aug 2024, 12:37

                Yep. Especially when nobody will hire you after you pen one of those. Better make the first one sell.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 12:40 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                Yep. Especially when nobody will hire you after you pen one of those. Better make the first one sell.

                Maybe if he picked better people?

                I was only joking

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                  27 Aug 2024, 12:40

                  @Jolly said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                  Yep. Especially when nobody will hire you after you pen one of those. Better make the first one sell.

                  Maybe if he picked better people?

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 12:42 last edited by
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                  @Jolly said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                  Yep. Especially when nobody will hire you after you pen one of those. Better make the first one sell.

                  Maybe if he picked better people?

                  He admitted that he made some mistakes when first hiring people in Washington. I think he'll do better this time.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 14:03 last edited by
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                    If only he could learn to tolerate fools

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                      27 Aug 2024, 14:03

                      If only he could learn to tolerate fools

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 14:07 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                      @Copper said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                      If only he could learn to tolerate fools

                      By 'fools', you presumably mean people who disagree with him?

                      I was only joking

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        27 Aug 2024, 14:07

                        @Copper said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                        If only he could learn to tolerate fools

                        By 'fools', you presumably mean people who disagree with him?

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 14:12 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                        @Copper said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                        If only he could learn to tolerate fools

                        By 'fools', you presumably mean people who disagree with him?

                        More like everyone

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                          89th
                          wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 14:50 last edited by
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                          You could have 100 out of 100 previous Trump hires come out against him, it will not change the MAGA mind. You could have 100 out of 100 go to jail. NOTHING changes the mind.

                          You could have a documented trail of 30,573 lies told over 4 years, and MAGA will claim the people documenting can't be trusted. Which is ironic since the metric is literally tracking trust.

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 14:52 last edited by
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                            But but but, I heard from President Trump that he only hires the best people? And he wouldn't lie to us, would he?

                            Anyways, I have yet to hear of any other President administration where so many people talked about how "dystfunctional" and incompetent the president was. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.

                            ANd I seriously doubt that the people who have spoken out against President Trump are making up stuff and doing it just to boost book sales.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 14:56 last edited by
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                              Reminds me of this segment starting at 11:35:

                              Link to video

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 15:01 last edited by
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                                😂

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                                  27 Aug 2024, 14:50

                                  You could have 100 out of 100 previous Trump hires come out against him, it will not change the MAGA mind. You could have 100 out of 100 go to jail. NOTHING changes the mind.

                                  You could have a documented trail of 30,573 lies told over 4 years, and MAGA will claim the people documenting can't be trusted. Which is ironic since the metric is literally tracking trust.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 15:15 last edited by
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                                  @89th said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                                  You could have 100 out of 100 previous Trump hires come out against him, it will not change the MAGA mind. You could have 100 out of 100 go to jail. NOTHING changes the mind.

                                  You could have a documented trail of 30,573 lies told over 4 years, and MAGA will claim the people documenting can't be trusted. Which is ironic since the metric is literally tracking trust.

                                  They join the Trump organisation as The Best People, they leave mere months later as conniving scumbags.

                                  What happens to them to affect this awful transformation? One can only imagine.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    27 Aug 2024, 12:34

                                    Good money in that business.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 15:18 last edited by
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                                    Good money in that business.

                                    It would have been good money for GWB’s cabinet members too. What percentage of them turned on him?

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      27 Aug 2024, 15:18

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                                      Good money in that business.

                                      It would have been good money for GWB’s cabinet members too. What percentage of them turned on him?

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 15:46 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in And another high ranking person writes...............:

                                      Good money in that business.

                                      It would have been good money for GWB’s cabinet members too. What percentage of them turned on him?

                                      Or Clinton, or Obama, or Reagan, or or or

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 19:55 last edited by
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                                        Nope, most of them left office with pretty high popularity levels. Fewer people wanting to believe poorly. W would have an argument…

                                        The Brad

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 27 Aug 2024, 22:38 last edited by
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                                          Great line by McMaster:

                                          “exercises in competitive sycophancy.”

                                          That’s a keeper

                                          Elbows up!

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