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In Joe's shoes...

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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    I keep forgetting it's an election year.

    If you're Joe - what do you do?

    Is talking about politics-as-usual issues too crass?
    Will the arbiter of Trump's success / failure be almost all COVID driven?
    Do you attack his response to the pandemic, mid-response?
    Do you just run a positive campaign?

    Seems like it'll be hard to get any sort of message out in the next couple of months.

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      Loki
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      There was a poll released today where more democrats want Cuomo than him to be the nominee so that might be his first order of business.

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        @xenon good question. I agree it’ll be tough to get any type of coverage. Heck, I could REALLY see a legal battle as we lead up towards Election Day, since it may still be unsafe to have crowds. What we saw in Wisconsin last week might be a precursor.

        That being said, Trump looks MUCH stronger in almost every regard than weakly Biden does these days. America needs strength right now and Biden does not give odd that vibe.

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          Jolly
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          If I was Joe, I'd turn down those cookies Hillary baked...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Mik
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            You make sure to lose. You would have to be an idiot to want to take over at this point.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              You make sure to lose. You would have to be an idiot to want to take over at this point.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #6

              @Mik said in In Joe's shoes...:

              You would have to be an idiot to want to take over at this point.

              In this time of crisis and shortages, it's reassuring to know there's one thing we will be guaranteed an abundance of.

              I was only joking

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                LuFins Dad
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                #7

                I don’t get the Cuomo love.

                First, the guy is in the middle of the worst COVID outbreak in the world. Not the US, the world. More cases than Italy or Spain. He is going to have his hands too full to be campaigning for President, and if he does run, that will be the first knock on him.

                Second, the guy never shut down the schools until what? The 18th? No stay at home order till the 20th? He’s handled things pretty well in the public eye since then, but New York would have been in a far better place if he would have taken action earlier. He already had the example in Washington and California.

                Third, it doesn’t matter. For some reason, the left and the media jumped on HCQ and Trump. This was going to bury him they thought. Everyday, however, the anecdotal evidence adds up. More people talking about how it saved their lives. More doctors saying the same. Now you even have a Michigan Democrat Legislator specifically crediting Trump and HCQ for saving her life. With the clinical trials are coming back with extremely positive results, this election is already over.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  I don’t get the Cuomo love.

                  First, the guy is in the middle of the worst COVID outbreak in the world. Not the US, the world. More cases than Italy or Spain. He is going to have his hands too full to be campaigning for President, and if he does run, that will be the first knock on him.

                  Second, the guy never shut down the schools until what? The 18th? No stay at home order till the 20th? He’s handled things pretty well in the public eye since then, but New York would have been in a far better place if he would have taken action earlier. He already had the example in Washington and California.

                  Third, it doesn’t matter. For some reason, the left and the media jumped on HCQ and Trump. This was going to bury him they thought. Everyday, however, the anecdotal evidence adds up. More people talking about how it saved their lives. More doctors saying the same. Now you even have a Michigan Democrat Legislator specifically crediting Trump and HCQ for saving her life. With the clinical trials are coming back with extremely positive results, this election is already over.

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                  @LuFins-Dad
                  You have to get your head into the mindset of a diehard partisan Democrat.

                  Your current candidate is weak and looking weaker, losing momentum, looking ill. He doesn't have much ground to diss Trump and seem anything more than petulant. He's lost the spotlight.

                  Then Cuomo comes into the spotlight as a take-charge kind of guy. He repeatedly gets in the news for blasting Trump. The Dem hard-core group have been waiting for this, and they eat it up. It's what they have been craving.

                  The past no longer matters to them. They don't want to hear about Cuomo's past regarding the virus. They don't consider it any worse than what they think Trump did. It's irrelevant to them. They just look toward the present and future of the presidential race. For the true die-hards, they're loving the one who makes them feel good right now about hating Trump.

                  Which person do they think has a better shot at hurting Trump enough to have a chance of winning the election? Who would they envision as their preferred candidate? They only thing they want is to win. Policy details can be handled later. First, they need the win. They need someone who can deliver, and the current candidate doesn't look so promising anymore as he campaigns from his basement. The backdrop Cuomo has is far more invigorating.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    October is going to look very different from July which is going to look very different from now.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Copper
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                      Mr. Cuomo was just a handy, available non-Trump that could be thrown at the president. I doubt if there is that much love for Mr. Cuomo. I suspect it is his status as a non-Trump that helps.

                      Could he be sold? Sure.
                      But he's not there yet.

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                        The question in November will be do you want a change of course. My gut says most people will not want to go through that sort of upheaval just to get rid of Trump. Especially if the alternative is Biden.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          October is going to look very different from July which is going to look very different from now.

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                          brenda
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                          @jon-nyc
                          That's why LuFins-Dad and I are talking about the Cuomo love going on today, in the current environment.

                          Everything can change by October/November.

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                            I do not believe Cuomo is likeable enough to be elected president. He'll just get down in the mud with Trump and you won't be able to tell the difference. NY was the epicenter of covid, so he won't have any standing as a hero like DeWine would.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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