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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 16:39 last edited by
A man in Hong Kong has become the first confirmed patient to be infected with the coronavirus a second time, according to researchers at the University of Hong Kong.
The finding suggests that some patients who recover from COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, may have only short-lived immunity from reinfection. The case will likely also be significant for scientists who have been working on treatments using antibodies from recovered coronavirus patients, and those who have been scrambling to develop a safe and effective vaccine, though it’s too soon to draw any firm conclusions.
But the research is not necessarily cause for panic. Reinfection is common with other coronaviruses. Akiko Iwasaki, a professor of immunobiology at Yale University, tweeted shortly after the study was released that the study did not show anything unexpected.
"This is no cause for alarm - this is a textbook example of how immunity should work," she wrote.
The 33-year-old man in Hong Kong developed mild symptoms in late March when he was first diagnosed with COVID-19, the researchers at the University of Hong Kong wrote in a study that has been accepted for publication by the medical journal Clinical Infectious Diseases. The patient was hospitalized March 29, but his symptoms subsided and he was discharged April 14, according to the study.
The second infection occurred more than four months later, reportedly after the man returned to Hong Kong from Spain, via the United Kingdom. The patient tested positive on Aug. 15 and was hospitalized but remains asymptomatic, according to the study. The second infection appears to be a slightly different virus strain from the initial one, the researchers said.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 16:43 last edited by Loki
Interesting how so much news is not about 99.7% of the infected population but the unicorns. It’s fascinating.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 16:53 last edited by
Seems like this is the first ironclad case? They sequenced the virus of each infection and they weren’t the same.
Still need to see how common it is.
Good news is second time immune response developed quickly and symptoms didn’t appear.
Bad news is probably no herd immunity through infection spread. We need a vaccine.
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Interesting how so much news is not about 99.7% of the infected population but the unicorns. It’s fascinating.
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 16:54 last edited by@Loki said in Reinfected:
Interesting how so much news is not about 99.7% of the infected population but the unicorns. It’s fascinating.
What would that headline be? "Things mostly okay, don't worry about the outliers and carry on"? "So many people live through the virus that there's statistically no threat in general"? What kind of message is that?
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 16:54 last edited by
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 16:56 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Reinfected:
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
So peaceful survey says 40% of kids are deferring college acceptance this year. Colleges are like no problem, no revenue problem at all because they can just print money. Everyone wins!
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@jon-nyc said in Reinfected:
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
So peaceful survey says 40% of kids are deferring college acceptance this year. Colleges are like no problem, no revenue problem at all because they can just print money. Everyone wins!
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 17:09 last edited by@Loki said in Reinfected:
@jon-nyc said in Reinfected:
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
So peaceful survey says 40% of kids are deferring college acceptance this year. Colleges are like no problem, no revenue problem at all because they can just print money. Everyone wins!
What does that have to do with the relevance of reinfected numbers? Are you suggesting we put blinders on because scientific updates are bad for the economy?
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@Loki said in Reinfected:
@jon-nyc said in Reinfected:
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
So peaceful survey says 40% of kids are deferring college acceptance this year. Colleges are like no problem, no revenue problem at all because they can just print money. Everyone wins!
What does that have to do with the relevance of reinfected numbers? Are you suggesting we put blinders on because scientific updates are bad for the economy?
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 17:16 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Reinfected:
@Loki said in Reinfected:
@jon-nyc said in Reinfected:
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
So peaceful survey says 40% of kids are deferring college acceptance this year. Colleges are like no problem, no revenue problem at all because they can just print money. Everyone wins!
What does that have to do with the relevance of reinfected numbers? Are you suggesting we put blinders on because scientific updates are bad for the economy?
8 billion people on the planet, 1 reinfected person in 7 months. It’s interesting but no need for further panic.
In case you are interested here is the college survey, must be lots of layoffs coming and everyone serving colleges has to recast revenue and staffing.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Reinfected:
@Loki said in Reinfected:
@jon-nyc said in Reinfected:
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
So peaceful survey says 40% of kids are deferring college acceptance this year. Colleges are like no problem, no revenue problem at all because they can just print money. Everyone wins!
What does that have to do with the relevance of reinfected numbers? Are you suggesting we put blinders on because scientific updates are bad for the economy?
8 billion people on the planet, 1 reinfected person in 7 months. It’s interesting but no need for further panic.
In case you are interested here is the college survey, must be lots of layoffs coming and everyone serving colleges has to recast revenue and staffing.
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 17:19 last edited by@Loki said in Reinfected:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Reinfected:
@Loki said in Reinfected:
@jon-nyc said in Reinfected:
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
So peaceful survey says 40% of kids are deferring college acceptance this year. Colleges are like no problem, no revenue problem at all because they can just print money. Everyone wins!
What does that have to do with the relevance of reinfected numbers? Are you suggesting we put blinders on because scientific updates are bad for the economy?
8 billion people on the planet, 1 reinfected person in 7 months. It’s interesting but no need for further panic.
In case you are interested here is the college survey, must be lots of layoffs coming and everyone serving colleges has to recast revenue and staffing.
I'm completely unmoved. I'm neck-deep in my own shit right now, and yeah, the pandemic has contributed significantly to that. I'm not saying that economic effects aren't important, just that I don't really have the emotional RAM required to worry about that just now.
I think the difference is that some people prefer to freak out over the pandemic, which drives some headlines, and others prefer to freak out over the economy, which drives others.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Reinfected:
@Loki said in Reinfected:
@jon-nyc said in Reinfected:
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
So peaceful survey says 40% of kids are deferring college acceptance this year. Colleges are like no problem, no revenue problem at all because they can just print money. Everyone wins!
What does that have to do with the relevance of reinfected numbers? Are you suggesting we put blinders on because scientific updates are bad for the economy?
8 billion people on the planet, 1 reinfected person in 7 months. It’s interesting but no need for further panic.
In case you are interested here is the college survey, must be lots of layoffs coming and everyone serving colleges has to recast revenue and staffing.
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 17:24 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Reinfected:
@Loki said in Reinfected:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Reinfected:
@Loki said in Reinfected:
@jon-nyc said in Reinfected:
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
So peaceful survey says 40% of kids are deferring college acceptance this year. Colleges are like no problem, no revenue problem at all because they can just print money. Everyone wins!
What does that have to do with the relevance of reinfected numbers? Are you suggesting we put blinders on because scientific updates are bad for the economy?
8 billion people on the planet, 1 reinfected person in 7 months. It’s interesting but no need for further panic.
In case you are interested here is the college survey, must be lots of layoffs coming and everyone serving colleges has to recast revenue and staffing.
I'm completely unmoved. I'm neck-deep in my own shit right now, and yeah, the pandemic has contributed significantly to that. I'm not saying that economic effects aren't important, just that I don't really have the emotional RAM required to worry about that just now.
I think the difference is that some people prefer to freak out over the pandemic, which drives some headlines, and others prefer to freak out over the economy, which drives others.
I predict again that once Biden is elected the narrative will change again and it will be about returning to normal life and freaking out about the pandemic will take a back seat. I will be right or wrong in less than two months.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Reinfected:
@Loki said in Reinfected:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Reinfected:
@Loki said in Reinfected:
@jon-nyc said in Reinfected:
Loki would like to remind everyone that this is a mostly peaceful virus.
So peaceful survey says 40% of kids are deferring college acceptance this year. Colleges are like no problem, no revenue problem at all because they can just print money. Everyone wins!
What does that have to do with the relevance of reinfected numbers? Are you suggesting we put blinders on because scientific updates are bad for the economy?
8 billion people on the planet, 1 reinfected person in 7 months. It’s interesting but no need for further panic.
In case you are interested here is the college survey, must be lots of layoffs coming and everyone serving colleges has to recast revenue and staffing.
I'm completely unmoved. I'm neck-deep in my own shit right now, and yeah, the pandemic has contributed significantly to that. I'm not saying that economic effects aren't important, just that I don't really have the emotional RAM required to worry about that just now.
I think the difference is that some people prefer to freak out over the pandemic, which drives some headlines, and others prefer to freak out over the economy, which drives others.
I predict again that once Biden is elected the narrative will change again and it will be about returning to normal life and freaking out about the pandemic will take a back seat. I will be right or wrong in less than two months.
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 17:25 last edited by@Loki said in Reinfected:
I predict again that once Biden is elected the narrative will change again and it will be about returning to normal life and freaking out about the pandemic will take a back seat. I will be right or wrong in less than two months.
Fair enough. Won't change my plans any.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 17:32 last edited by
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 17:32 last edited by Copper
1 guy was reinfected, and he remains asymptomatic
That is roughly .000000004 % of total cases
To bad for the 1 guy, who feels fine
I say that we should take no action based on this case
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 21:19 last edited by
From the original article:
"The second infection appears to be a slightly different virus strain from the initial one, the researchers said."So, that is either good news, or horrible news.
Does it mean that "different virus strain" in this case happens to be relatively benign, and that tomorrow a "different virus strain" could be much worse than the original? Are a variety of different strains of virus a normality 8-months out?
I'm asking more questions than Ax. But I really dislike sentences which lead to obvious questions, which are not answered in an article.
Asymptomatic relapse from a different strain, like, why should I care, it's not like the initial potential death sentence from testing positive.
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1 guy was reinfected, and he remains asymptomatic
That is roughly .000000004 % of total cases
To bad for the 1 guy, who feels fine
I say that we should take no action based on this case
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 21:35 last edited by@Copper said in Reinfected:
1 guy was reinfected, and he remains asymptomatic
That is roughly .000000004 % of total cases
To bad for the 1 guy, who feels fine
I say that we should take no action based on this case
Seems like it’s more than one, but this is the first to be definitively shown by sequencing both viruses. But I agree there’s no particular action to be taken on this.
