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  • R Renauda
    6 Aug 2024, 18:08

    I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

    This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 18:14 last edited by
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    @Renauda said in It's Walz:

    I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

    This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

    Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

    The Brad

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    • J jon-nyc
      6 Aug 2024, 18:04

      @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

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      George K
      wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 18:17 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

      @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

      That asthma is a bitch isn’t it, esp when youre a lifeguard football player?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:01 last edited by
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        The Brad

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        • G George K
          6 Aug 2024, 13:15

          Does NOT picking Shapiro put Pennsylvania more into play? Minnesota's been a fairly reliable blue state for a long time.

          What does he bring to the ticket?

          One talking head said that the VEEP pick rarely influences elections, though. He may be right.

          ETA: Shapiro, from what I understand, is fairly popular in Pennsylvania. More so than Walz in Minnesota.

          And what in the world is this shit?

          https://www.startribune.com/want-to-know-more-about-tim-walz-try-making-his-hot-dish-recipe/600680906

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          Jolly
          wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:32 last edited by
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          @George-K said in It's Walz:

          What does he bring to the ticket?

          A DWI while speeding...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J jon-nyc
            6 Aug 2024, 18:02

            @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

            Looks like scenes from the Trump administration to me.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:53 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

            @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

            Looks like scenes from the Trump administration to me.

            Yeah and who set the fires in Portland in DC?

            Which you may counter with Jan 6 nonsense.

            My point is it's ridiculous at this point to attribute the nation's growing radicalism to Trump. We've been marching farther down this road for over a decade.

            Please love yourself.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:54 last edited by jon-nyc 8 Jun 2024, 19:55
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              It’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.

              Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • L LuFins Dad
                6 Aug 2024, 18:14

                @Renauda said in It's Walz:

                I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

                This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

                Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

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                Renauda
                wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:59 last edited by
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                @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                @Renauda said in It's Walz:

                I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

                This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

                Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

                Ah yes, Michigan. I had forgotten. Will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. Right now we’re seeing no time being be lost on the deployment of SwIftboats. Am sure that with Walz’s past drunk driving charge the spectre of a Chappaquidick or some such will also emerge. Am sure there’s dirt from his years as a teacher and football coach that will also be dug or dredged up.

                A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.

                Elbows up!

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                • J jon-nyc
                  6 Aug 2024, 19:54

                  It’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.

                  Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:00 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                  It’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.

                  Agree, weird argument.

                  Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).

                  Because the nutters, the Portland contingent of which, turned their city into fucking Gangland, thought they won the election, not because of anything constructive Biden or Kamala did. It's all bottom-up, not top-down.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:01 last edited by
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                    You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • R Renauda
                      6 Aug 2024, 19:59

                      @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                      @Renauda said in It's Walz:

                      I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

                      This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

                      Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

                      Ah yes, Michigan. I had forgotten. Will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. Right now we’re seeing no time being be lost on the deployment of SwIftboats. Am sure that with Walz’s past drunk driving charge the spectre of a Chappaquidick or some such will also emerge. Am sure there’s dirt from his years as a teacher and football coach that will also be dug or dredged up.

                      A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:03 last edited by
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                      @Renauda said in It's Walz:

                      A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.

                      At this point my main hope is to wake up like Pam Ewing and realize the last 8 years have all been an awful dream.

                      I was only joking

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:04 last edited by
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                        I didn't think anyone I knew actually watched that show. Live and learn. 😄

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          6 Aug 2024, 20:01

                          You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:08 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                          You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                          It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

                          Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

                          This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • A Aqua Letifer
                            6 Aug 2024, 20:08

                            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                            You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                            It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

                            Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

                            This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:37 last edited by
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in It's Walz:

                            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                            You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                            It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

                            Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

                            This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

                            There are reasons you are seeing this happen in the UK and elsewhere. The polarization across the west is quite stark.

                            And @jon-nyc the Floyd riots were only the latest and the worst, particularly bad because of the lockdowns and pandemic stress/fears.

                            The recent Pro-Palestinian protests in DC we’re as bad as anything we saw during Floyd (in DC), and weren’t as bad as the anti-Trump riots in January 17. But let’s not forget Baltimore 2015, Ferguson in 2014, Trayvon Martin and more.

                            And it doesn’t have to be about Race. Occupy Wall Street wasn’t as violent, but set the stage for a lot of what’s come since.

                            The Brad

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:49 last edited by
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                              Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

                              Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

                              Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

                              Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

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                              • A Axtremus
                                6 Aug 2024, 20:49

                                Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

                                Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

                                Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

                                Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:52 last edited by
                                #31

                                @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

                                Which one is the party of the "elites" now?

                                Trump & Vance - both attended Ivy League schools.

                                Harris & Walz - neither has attended an Ivy League school

                                Biden also did not go to an Ivy League school.

                                Great point! You completely opened my eyes!

                                The Brad

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                                • L LuFins Dad
                                  6 Aug 2024, 20:37

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in It's Walz:

                                  @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                  You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                                  It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

                                  Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

                                  This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

                                  There are reasons you are seeing this happen in the UK and elsewhere. The polarization across the west is quite stark.

                                  And @jon-nyc the Floyd riots were only the latest and the worst, particularly bad because of the lockdowns and pandemic stress/fears.

                                  The recent Pro-Palestinian protests in DC we’re as bad as anything we saw during Floyd (in DC), and weren’t as bad as the anti-Trump riots in January 17. But let’s not forget Baltimore 2015, Ferguson in 2014, Trayvon Martin and more.

                                  And it doesn’t have to be about Race. Occupy Wall Street wasn’t as violent, but set the stage for a lot of what’s come since.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:58 last edited by Renauda 8 Jun 2024, 20:59
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                                  @LuFins-Dad

                                  And it doesn’t have to be about Race.

                                  True enough but Race is what puts the sizzle in the rabble’s flambé.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:25 last edited by
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                                    I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • D Doctor Phibes
                                      6 Aug 2024, 21:25

                                      I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:34 last edited by
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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in It's Walz:

                                      I’ve always found Trump’s followers going on about the elites hilarious

                                      Why is that hilarious?

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:41 last edited by
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                                        I'm watching the Harris/Walz rally in Philly. Shapiro's on stage and he's spent the last 15 minutes yelling.

                                        Literally yelling.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          6 Aug 2024, 18:04

                                          @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:43 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                          @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

                                          Just so you know, this is called a Ratio. When the number of views far exceed the likes and when the number of comments far exceed the number of likes. In politics, it will typically indicate a weakness and a position that may hurt the person’s chances…

                                          The Brad

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