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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Gershkovich, Whalen and others released after a prisoner exchange deal.

    What didn't The Hill say?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      They weren’t hostages at the time?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        They weren’t hostages at the time?

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        @Mik said in Hostages released:

        They weren’t hostages at the time?

        Evan Gershkovich - Detained March 2022
        Paul Whelan- Detained 12/2018
        Alsu Kurmasheva - Detained March 2023
        Vladimir Kara-Murza - Detained April 2022

        And then there are the Americans held in Gaza....

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Very glad that the wrongfully detained Americans get to come home and reunite with their families! Kudos to the Biden administration and the US diplomatic corp for getting it done. 👍 👍

          As for Trump, here is a collection of Trump’s pathetic record and stupid bizarre unhinged weird reactions to the whole thing:

          https://abcnews.go.com/International/trump-lashes-biden-historic-prisoner-exchange-russia-freed/story?id=112477541

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            Putin greeted the kids in Spanish. Why? The kids had no idea their parents were Russian (spies). The similarities to the FX show "The Americans" is uncanny.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1ei83ob/the_children_of_anna_and_artem_dultsev_the/

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            • MikM Offline
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              The best fiction has a base in truth. I'd bet we have some there too.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                It appears that negotiations got kicked into gear by Tucker Carlson during his trip/interview that everyone demeaned. How insane is that?

                The Brad

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  Tucker should run for president.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    It appears that negotiations got kicked into gear by Tucker Carlson during his trip/interview that everyone demeaned. How insane is that?

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Hostages released:

                    It appears that negotiations got kicked into gear by Tucker Carlson during his trip/interview that everyone demeaned. How insane is that?

                    Nothing is what it seems or reported. FuCa, I am sure, was not in any way a catalyst in the negotiation process.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      Some news outlets are upset with Bloomberg's reporting:

                      https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/bloombergs-risky-embargo-breaking-evan-gershkovich-scoop.html

                      How did Bloomberg beat The Wall Street Journal and the rest of the press corps on one of the most-watched stories in the world: the release of Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich and former U.S. Marine Paul Whelan from Russia?

                      At 7:41 a.m. on August 1, Bloomberg published its scoop about the prisoner swap. Ten minutes later, a Bloomberg editor posted proudly on X, “It is one of the greatest honors of my career to have helped break this news. I love my job and my colleagues.” Then, 8:59, the piece was updated to read: “An earlier version of this story was corrected to reflect that the Americans have not been released yet.” The Journal itself didn’t report it until just after 11 when their reporter and other Americans — whose freedom was negotiated by the U.S. Government as part of an extremely complicated, 24-person swap across multiple countries — actually deplaned in Turkey.

                      According to multiple sources at the Journal and other major outlets, the Bloomberg scoop left journalists and government officials fuming. With a prisoner swap, you don’t know if it’s going to happen until it happens. (As one Journal reporter put it: “We literally had Yaroslav Trofimov on the ground with binoculars waiting to see Evan come off the plane, and we pubbed as soon as that happened.”) Which means that Bloomberg’s story proclaiming Gershkovich was free was inaccurate, given that the Russian plane was still in the air at the time of publication. That plane could have just turned around and gone back to Moscow, which is why the Journal and other publications had agreed to hold off.

                      “Incensed” is how one reporter, whose outlet had agreed to an embargo – delaying publishing what they knew – reacted to Bloomberg’s decision. “People are very, very disappointed in Bloomberg. And not just the embargo breaking, but the football spiking.” (The Bloomberg editor’s X post was later deleted.) Another reporter added, “We all want to break stories. We also need to consider the risks of breaking those stories. I hope editors and reporters thought long and hard about the risks of revealing the details of a hostage transfer before the hostages were back in U.S. custody.”

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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