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Here’s the problem with the Dem polling…

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    In the 2 way races, Trump is in the upper 40s or lower 50s against Biden. In PA Trump is at 49 vs Biden’s 43. In Michigan, Trump was at 49, Biden at 42. Wisconsin, AZ, NV, all the same. Now, unless you think that there are some Trump voters that are going to switch to Harris, that means that Harris needs to pick up ALL of the undecideds and almost all of the 3rd party votes. She will need all of Jill Stein’s, Cornel West’s, and 2/3rds of Kennedy’s voters. I don’t see that happening.

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      There is nothing to attract independents other than she's not Trump. I don't think it will work, and I'm not entirely convinced she won't get bounced at the convention.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        There is nothing to attract independents other than she's not Trump. I don't think it will work, and I'm not entirely convinced she won't get bounced at the convention.

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        @Mik said in Here’s the problem with the Dem polling…:

        There is nothing to attract independents other than she's not Trump. I don't think it will work, and I'm not entirely convinced she won't get bounced at the convention.

        Who'd they go with then?

        Please love yourself.

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        • MikM Mik

          There is nothing to attract independents other than she's not Trump. I don't think it will work, and I'm not entirely convinced she won't get bounced at the convention.

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          @Mik said in Here’s the problem with the Dem polling…:

          There is nothing to attract independents other than she's not Trump. I don't think it will work, and I'm not entirely convinced she won't get bounced at the convention.

          That’s just it. There are enough voices saying “slow down for a minute” that I could easily se e them moving to option C, EXCEPT…

          Trump is still at 49% and typically outperforms his polls. The Dems don’t have anybody that will pull votes away from him. Even their best options won’t move his numbers. I think they leave Kamala as a sacrificial lamb, the blue wall becomes the senate seats they try to hold, and they save their best options for 2028.

          The Brad

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            @Mik said in Here’s the problem with the Dem polling…:

            There is nothing to attract independents other than she's not Trump. I don't think it will work, and I'm not entirely convinced she won't get bounced at the convention.

            Who'd they go with then?

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Here’s the problem with the Dem polling…:

            @Mik said in Here’s the problem with the Dem polling…:

            There is nothing to attract independents other than she's not Trump. I don't think it will work, and I'm not entirely convinced she won't get bounced at the convention.

            Who'd they go with then?

            Someone far more centrist and experienced.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Don't forget, early voting starts when...late September?

              With the media blitz, some people won't wake up to what they've done until too late...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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