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Is this the DEI Election?

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    My previous predictions were wrong, so ignore this... but:

    It seems likely Trump will win, which means he beat a white woman, and now a brown woman. Hopefully in 2028 Vance picks a brown woman (Haley?) latino (Rubio?) black man (Scott?), but probably will pick DeSantis.

    My point is... Trump probably wins which doesn't help the wHiTe MaLe PriViLeDgE! headline.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #6

      No, hopefully Vance gets his ass handed to him in the primaries. I thought you were a conservative?

      The Brad

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #7

        I think the country is starting to value competence over gender or color.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #9

            The Vance pick was definitely the final nail in the coffin of Reaganism.

            Welcome to the new GOP.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

              HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #10

              @LuFins-Dad said in Is this the DEI Election?:

              @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

              In what specific ways is Vance like Bernie again?

              Education is extremely important.

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

                89th8 Offline
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                89th
                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                @LuFins-Dad said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

                Oh all I'm saying is if Trump/Vance wins this election, it'll be Vance that leads the GOP ticket in 2028. Like... without a doubt in the world.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                  @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

                  In what specific ways is Vance like Bernie again?

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  @Horace said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                  @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

                  In what specific ways is Vance like Bernie again?

                  Vance is very much pro government intervention in trade/business. Big regulation guy. Also pro-union and anti-free market. Wall St is the boogeyman, and he not only wants trade tariffs against China and Russia, he wants trade tariffs against every other country. His current views are counter to the very principles he espoused in his book.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @Horace said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                    @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

                    In what specific ways is Vance like Bernie again?

                    Vance is very much pro government intervention in trade/business. Big regulation guy. Also pro-union and anti-free market. Wall St is the boogeyman, and he not only wants trade tariffs against China and Russia, he wants trade tariffs against every other country. His current views are counter to the very principles he espoused in his book.

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                    @Horace said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                    @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

                    In what specific ways is Vance like Bernie again?

                    Vance is very much pro government intervention in trade/business. Big regulation guy. Also pro-union and anti-free market. Wall St is the boogeyman, and he not only wants trade tariffs against China and Russia, he wants trade tariffs against every other country. His current views are counter to the very principles he espoused in his book.

                    Did you get all of this from his convention speech or is there other info I can peruse?

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      From the speech as well as multiple other sources.

                      Shapiro has done a few nice breakdowns on Vance’s policies, but he’s trying to be polite about his disagreements with Vance, but he’s detailed some of it.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @Horace said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                        @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

                        In what specific ways is Vance like Bernie again?

                        Vance is very much pro government intervention in trade/business. Big regulation guy. Also pro-union and anti-free market. Wall St is the boogeyman, and he not only wants trade tariffs against China and Russia, he wants trade tariffs against every other country. His current views are counter to the very principles he espoused in his book.

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                        Jolly
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                        #15

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                        @Horace said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                        @Jolly is voting for Bill Clinton V 2.0, @89th is looking forward to a guy who is closer to Bernie than he is to Reagan in outlook… WTH is going on?

                        In what specific ways is Vance like Bernie again?

                        Vance is very much pro government intervention in trade/business. Big regulation guy. Also pro-union and anti-free market. Wall St is the boogeyman, and he not only wants trade tariffs against China and Russia, he wants trade tariffs against every other country. His current views are counter to the very principles he espoused in his book.

                        Written another way, I think Vance is pro-jobs and pro- made in America.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          We're in a different place than we were under Reagan. Nippon steel is trying to buy U.S. Steel. We are dependent on foreign nations for our computer chips, energy and raw materials.

                          Strategically, we suck.

                          We've got to do something. I'm open to suggestions.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            I think where there are similarities are things like deregulation in many areas, tax cuts, lessening of government intrusion in many areas and a rearmed and reformed military.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              We're in a different place than we were under Reagan. Nippon steel is trying to buy U.S. Steel. We are dependent on foreign nations for our computer chips, energy and raw materials.

                              Strategically, we suck.

                              We've got to do something. I'm open to suggestions.

                              89th8 Offline
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                              89th
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              @Jolly said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                              We're in a different place than we were under Reagan. Nippon steel is trying to buy U.S. Steel. We are dependent on foreign nations for our computer chips, energy and raw materials.

                              Strategically, we suck.

                              We've got to do something. I'm open to suggestions.

                              Buy Canada for water, and annex Mexico for labor?

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                @Jolly said in Is this the DEI Election?:

                                We're in a different place than we were under Reagan. Nippon steel is trying to buy U.S. Steel. We are dependent on foreign nations for our computer chips, energy and raw materials.

                                Strategically, we suck.

                                We've got to do something. I'm open to suggestions.

                                Buy Canada for water, and annex Mexico for labor?

                                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                @89th 555

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