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Too many tourists. No más!

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/thousands-protest-spains-mallorca-against-mass-tourism-2024-07-21/

    Thousands of anti-tourism activists protested in Spain's Palma de Mallorca on Sunday in the latest demonstration against a key industry for the Iberian nation.
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    Carrying makeshift models of planes and cruise ships, protesters walked through the streets of the capital of Mallorca with posters reading 'no to mass tourism' and 'stop private jets'.

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    • CopperC Offline
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      If you live in a tourist trap, you will see tourists.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        Recent protest in Barcelona. Juneau is thinking of ways to limit cruise ships and tourists. Venice is the same thing.

        I can understand the frustration of the local people. It is a love-hate relationship with the tourists.

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          I mean, good for them. Tourism seems to be the primary income driver for so many places, but if the locals wants to limit it, even if that means fewer dollars, the protest makes sense and perhaps the government will enforce limits. Of course, that'll only make the price to visit certain places go up...

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          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Maybe they'd heard that Horace was in the area.

            I was only joking

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            • 89th8 89th

              I mean, good for them. Tourism seems to be the primary income driver for so many places, but if the locals wants to limit it, even if that means fewer dollars, the protest makes sense and perhaps the government will enforce limits. Of course, that'll only make the price to visit certain places go up...

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              @89th said in Too many tourists. No más!:

              if the locals wants to limit it, even if that means fewer dollars, the protest makes sense and perhaps the government will enforce limits. Of course, that'll only make the price to visit certain places go up...

              One of the places I am hoping to visit is Bhutan, and they really want to limit both tourists and "cheap" tourists. So, they drastically limit the number of tourists allowed in and have a minimum spend of something like USD$200 or $250 per day per tourist (USD$100 is a Sustainable Development Fee).

              https://bhutan.travel

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                https://travelnoire.com/short-term-rental-protest-anti-tourism-seville

                Several apartment key boxes in Seville, Spain have allegedly been covered in excrement. This development signals a disturbing escalation of anti-tourism sentiments in the city. It is also a new low in the ongoing tensions between locals and the country’s booming tourism industry.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  I wonder what Spain would be like without any tourists. Not very nice, I suspect.

                  Then again, I remember going on holiday to Mallorca in the 90's. There's a lot of English tourists in particular who are real assholes.

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    Figure out clever ways to tax it. Get fewer tourists and those that come will be better behaved in average.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Figure out clever ways to tax it. Get fewer tourists and those that come will be better behaved in average.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Too many tourists. No más!:

                      Figure out clever ways to tax it. Get fewer tourists and those that come will be better behaved in average.

                      Yup. Figuring out how to keep the same income from tourists with less people. I know that Venice has instituted a USD$5/day tax on non residents entering the city. Something like that will raise income but I don't think it is enough to reduce the number of people.

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                        Might be a fun game:

                        • List the cities or locales that you most want to visit as a tourist ...
                        • ... then for each city or locale, state the maximum amount of tourist tax/fees you are willing to pay to visit for one day
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Figure out clever ways to tax it. Get fewer tourists and those that come will be better behaved in average.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Too many tourists. No más!:

                          Figure out clever ways to tax it. Get fewer tourists and those that come will be better behaved in average.

                          They could also stop catering to the lowest common denominator. If you wander around a resort in parts of Mallorca or Torremolinos it's pretty obvious what they're trying to attract. I saw more Roy "Chubby" Brown videos playing on TV's in Mallorca bars than I've ever seen anywhere in the UK.

                          I was only joking

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                            @jon-nyc said in Too many tourists. No más!:

                            Figure out clever ways to tax it. Get fewer tourists and those that come will be better behaved in average.

                            They could also stop catering to the lowest common denominator. If you wander around a resort in parts of Mallorca or Torremolinos it's pretty obvious what they're trying to attract. I saw more Roy "Chubby" Brown videos playing on TV's in Mallorca bars than I've ever seen anywhere in the UK.

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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Too many tourists. No más!:

                            They could also stop catering to the lowest common denominator

                            Maybe Bhutan is on to something. LOL Charge people a minimum of USD$250/day, and the overall type of people visiting will change quite a bit. 555

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