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You know, he’s technically not a convicted felon until sentencing?
The Brad
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It strikes me that a certain liberal-minded character is required to vote for a draft-dodging misogynistic convicted criminal.
Who knew so many Americans were such tolerant, broad and open minded thinkers; accepting and willing to give power to such a devious and nasty person.
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- You know, I remember the Vietnam War. The latter part, quite well. If there was anyway you could, you worked the system to keep your happy ass out of the Nam.
- For a misogynist, the guy sure has done pretty well with the ladies. Both romantically and in business.
- Convicted felon? Lawfare, pure and simple. Witch hunts on a grand scale. Sound and fury, signifying nothing, brought by people who like to selectively prosecute threats to their cushy little world.
@Jolly said in Character counts:
You know, I remember the Vietnam War. The latter part, quite well. If there was anyway you could, you worked the system to keep your happy ass out of the Nam.
It's hard to blame people for trying to avoid going to Vietnam. What is kind of annoying is when in later years they become the world's greatest military patriot. Ted Nugent springs to mind, although admittedly he can't seem to keep his story straight.
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You know, he’s technically not a convicted felon until sentencing?
@LuFins-Dad said in Character counts:
You know, he’s technically not a convicted felon until sentencing?
Is that right? Seems counterintuitive. He’s been convicted of felonies.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Character counts:
You know, he’s technically not a convicted felon until sentencing?
Is that right? Seems counterintuitive. He’s been convicted of felonies.
@jon-nyc said in Character counts:
@LuFins-Dad said in Character counts:
You know, he’s technically not a convicted felon until sentencing?
Is that right? Seems counterintuitive. He’s been convicted of felonies.
Yeah, I heard about it immediately afterward. Technically, the case isn’t over until the judge brings Down the gavel at the end of the sentencing. It’s semantics, just ask all of those Justice Impacted Individuals.
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@George-K said in Character counts:
Interesting. Does seem counterintuitive, indeed.
That wouldn’t track with the ways those words are used by anybody. There is no common word to distinguish an accused person after being found guilty but before being sentenced. Any attempt to use a careful word, will make it sound like the trial hasn’t happened yet and a verdict has not been returned. So, anybody interested in clarity, should disregard this bit of technical accuracy.
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Do not take ChatGPT’s words (including “citations,” “publications,” “quotes,” “references,” “case texts,” “examples,” “precedents,” etc.) for it. Factcheck with resources outside of generative AI tools/platforms.
ChatGPT is known to have cited “publications” and “case laws” that are non-existent.
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I didn’t know I was Chat GPT. Where are my royalties?
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@George-K said in Character counts:
So this is already incoherent. “Sentencing is a separate phase that follows conviction”. There’s that word “conviction”. Indicating a person is a convicted felon before sentencing. I suggest this distinction between “convicted” and “guilty but not yet sentenced” is against any common usage, and might even be difficult to track down to any agreed upon source of truth.
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@George-K said in Character counts:
So this is already incoherent. “Sentencing is a separate phase that follows conviction”. There’s that word “conviction”. Indicating a person is a convicted felon before sentencing. I suggest this distinction between “convicted” and “guilty but not yet sentenced” is against any common usage, and might even be difficult to track down to any agreed upon source of truth.
@Horace said in Character counts:
@George-K said in Character counts:
So this is already incoherent. “Sentencing is a separate phase that follows conviction”. There’s that word “conviction”. Indicating a person is a convicted felon before sentencing. I suggest this distinction between “convicted” and “guilty but not yet sentenced” is against any common usage, and might even be difficult to track down to any agreed upon source of truth.
At this point in time the case is still active. The jury has voted to convict but it is not technically finished until sentencing.
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@Horace said in Character counts:
@George-K said in Character counts:
So this is already incoherent. “Sentencing is a separate phase that follows conviction”. There’s that word “conviction”. Indicating a person is a convicted felon before sentencing. I suggest this distinction between “convicted” and “guilty but not yet sentenced” is against any common usage, and might even be difficult to track down to any agreed upon source of truth.
At this point in time the case is still active. The jury has voted to convict but it is not technically finished until sentencing.
@LuFins-Dad said in Character counts:
@Horace said in Character counts:
@George-K said in Character counts:
So this is already incoherent. “Sentencing is a separate phase that follows conviction”. There’s that word “conviction”. Indicating a person is a convicted felon before sentencing. I suggest this distinction between “convicted” and “guilty but not yet sentenced” is against any common usage, and might even be difficult to track down to any agreed upon source of truth.
At this point in time the case is still active. The jury has voted to convict but it is not technically finished until sentencing.
Then we have no common word to describe someone after a jury convicts and before they are sentenced. The suggested common words like “accused” would all imply that the trial hasn’t happened yet. So we would sacrifice clarity if we cared about this distinction.
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Is somebody considered a wanker before they actually finish?
How many wankers can dance on the head of....er, never mind.
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@George-K said in Character counts:
@Mik said in Character counts:
It's a distinction without a difference.
I dunno… What if DJT decided to file slander suits against all the outlets calling him a convicted felon?
