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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #5
    1. You know, I remember the Vietnam War. The latter part, quite well. If there was anyway you could, you worked the system to keep your happy ass out of the Nam.
    2. For a misogynist, the guy sure has done pretty well with the ladies. Both romantically and in business.
    3. Convicted felon? Lawfare, pure and simple. Witch hunts on a grand scale. Sound and fury, signifying nothing, brought by people who like to selectively prosecute threats to their cushy little world.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      You know, he’s technically not a convicted felon until sentencing?

      The Brad

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      • A AndyD

        It strikes me that a certain liberal-minded character is required to vote for a draft-dodging misogynistic convicted criminal.

        Who knew so many Americans were such tolerant, broad and open minded thinkers; accepting and willing to give power to such a devious and nasty person.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #7

        @AndyD said in Character counts:

        draft-dodging

        Asthma in a football player lifeguard and student deferments.

        misogynistic

        Tara Read

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • JollyJ Jolly
          1. You know, I remember the Vietnam War. The latter part, quite well. If there was anyway you could, you worked the system to keep your happy ass out of the Nam.
          2. For a misogynist, the guy sure has done pretty well with the ladies. Both romantically and in business.
          3. Convicted felon? Lawfare, pure and simple. Witch hunts on a grand scale. Sound and fury, signifying nothing, brought by people who like to selectively prosecute threats to their cushy little world.
          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
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          #8

          @Jolly said in Character counts:

          You know, I remember the Vietnam War. The latter part, quite well. If there was anyway you could, you worked the system to keep your happy ass out of the Nam.

          It's hard to blame people for trying to avoid going to Vietnam. What is kind of annoying is when in later years they become the world's greatest military patriot. Ted Nugent springs to mind, although admittedly he can't seem to keep his story straight.

          I was only joking

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            You know, he’s technically not a convicted felon until sentencing?

            jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            @LuFins-Dad said in Character counts:

            You know, he’s technically not a convicted felon until sentencing?

            Is that right? Seems counterintuitive. He’s been convicted of felonies.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @LuFins-Dad said in Character counts:

              You know, he’s technically not a convicted felon until sentencing?

              Is that right? Seems counterintuitive. He’s been convicted of felonies.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              @jon-nyc said in Character counts:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Character counts:

              You know, he’s technically not a convicted felon until sentencing?

              Is that right? Seems counterintuitive. He’s been convicted of felonies.

              Yeah, I heard about it immediately afterward. Technically, the case isn’t over until the judge brings Down the gavel at the end of the sentencing. It’s semantics, just ask all of those Justice Impacted Individuals.

              The Brad

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                Interesting. Does seem counterintuitive, indeed.

                Screenshot 2024-07-22 at 7.45.48 AM.png

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                • George KG George K

                  Interesting. Does seem counterintuitive, indeed.

                  Screenshot 2024-07-22 at 7.45.48 AM.png

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  @George-K said in Character counts:

                  Interesting. Does seem counterintuitive, indeed.

                  Screenshot 2024-07-22 at 7.45.48 AM.png

                  That wouldn’t track with the ways those words are used by anybody. There is no common word to distinguish an accused person after being found guilty but before being sentenced. Any attempt to use a careful word, will make it sound like the trial hasn’t happened yet and a verdict has not been returned. So, anybody interested in clarity, should disregard this bit of technical accuracy.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • AxtremusA Away
                    AxtremusA Away
                    Axtremus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    Seriously, people, don’t just take ChatGPT’s words for it. Factcheck.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      Screenshot 2024-07-22 at 8.31.13 AM.png

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                      HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                      • AxtremusA Away
                        AxtremusA Away
                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                        #15

                        Do not take ChatGPT’s words (including “citations,” “publications,” “quotes,” “references,” “case texts,” “examples,” “precedents,” etc.) for it. Factcheck with resources outside of generative AI tools/platforms.

                        ChatGPT is known to have cited “publications” and “case laws” that are non-existent.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
                          LuFins DadL Offline
                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          I didn’t know I was Chat GPT. Where are my royalties?

                          The Brad

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                          • George KG George K

                            Screenshot 2024-07-22 at 8.31.13 AM.png

                            HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            @George-K said in Character counts:

                            Screenshot 2024-07-22 at 8.31.13 AM.png

                            So this is already incoherent. “Sentencing is a separate phase that follows conviction”. There’s that word “conviction”. Indicating a person is a convicted felon before sentencing. I suggest this distinction between “convicted” and “guilty but not yet sentenced” is against any common usage, and might even be difficult to track down to any agreed upon source of truth.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @George-K said in Character counts:

                              Screenshot 2024-07-22 at 8.31.13 AM.png

                              So this is already incoherent. “Sentencing is a separate phase that follows conviction”. There’s that word “conviction”. Indicating a person is a convicted felon before sentencing. I suggest this distinction between “convicted” and “guilty but not yet sentenced” is against any common usage, and might even be difficult to track down to any agreed upon source of truth.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              @Horace said in Character counts:

                              @George-K said in Character counts:

                              Screenshot 2024-07-22 at 8.31.13 AM.png

                              So this is already incoherent. “Sentencing is a separate phase that follows conviction”. There’s that word “conviction”. Indicating a person is a convicted felon before sentencing. I suggest this distinction between “convicted” and “guilty but not yet sentenced” is against any common usage, and might even be difficult to track down to any agreed upon source of truth.

                              At this point in time the case is still active. The jury has voted to convict but it is not technically finished until sentencing.

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @Horace said in Character counts:

                                @George-K said in Character counts:

                                Screenshot 2024-07-22 at 8.31.13 AM.png

                                So this is already incoherent. “Sentencing is a separate phase that follows conviction”. There’s that word “conviction”. Indicating a person is a convicted felon before sentencing. I suggest this distinction between “convicted” and “guilty but not yet sentenced” is against any common usage, and might even be difficult to track down to any agreed upon source of truth.

                                At this point in time the case is still active. The jury has voted to convict but it is not technically finished until sentencing.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Character counts:

                                @Horace said in Character counts:

                                @George-K said in Character counts:

                                Screenshot 2024-07-22 at 8.31.13 AM.png

                                So this is already incoherent. “Sentencing is a separate phase that follows conviction”. There’s that word “conviction”. Indicating a person is a convicted felon before sentencing. I suggest this distinction between “convicted” and “guilty but not yet sentenced” is against any common usage, and might even be difficult to track down to any agreed upon source of truth.

                                At this point in time the case is still active. The jury has voted to convict but it is not technically finished until sentencing.

                                Then we have no common word to describe someone after a jury convicts and before they are sentenced. The suggested common words like “accused” would all imply that the trial hasn’t happened yet. So we would sacrifice clarity if we cared about this distinction.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  In a country that no longer cares about justice or equal protection under the law, semantics are such a trivial thing...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    It's a distinction without a difference. How many felons can dance on the head of a pin.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      It's a distinction without a difference. How many felons can dance on the head of a pin.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #22

                                      @Mik said in Character counts:

                                      It's a distinction without a difference.

                                      ⬆

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        Is somebody considered a wanker before they actually finish?

                                        How many wankers can dance on the head of....er, never mind.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @Mik said in Character counts:

                                          It's a distinction without a difference.

                                          ⬆

                                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #24

                                          @George-K said in Character counts:

                                          @Mik said in Character counts:

                                          It's a distinction without a difference.

                                          ⬆

                                          I dunno… What if DJT decided to file slander suits against all the outlets calling him a convicted felon?

                                          The Brad

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