Democracy?

[LuFins Dad]

I honestly am curious about the Bernie/Warren supporters. I can see them rebelling. Bernie was screwed over twice. I don’t know that they allow the the DNC to just raise Kamala without some type of challenge.

[jon-nyc]

@LuFins-Dad said in Democracy?:

In 2016, leaked emails showed that Debbie Wassermann-Schulz and the DNC were using their influence to make sure that Hilary was not beaten by Bernie. She nearly was.

In 2020, the DNC had closed door meetings to bribe candidates to drop out and give their unwilling support to Joe Biden to prevent Bernie from winning the nomination.

In 2024, the party has forced the sitting President and the winner of EVERY SINGLE PRIMARY to withdraw from the election so Superdelegates can decide on a new nominee.

This is the party that’s “saving democracy”?

My understanding is the superdelegates are going to hold out on the early votes.

Honestly I’m fine with parties picking their own candidates in smoke-filled rooms. I want the general election to be fair and not have magats try to reverse it if they lose.

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Democracy?:

I honestly am curious about the Bernie/Warren supporters. I can see them rebelling. Bernie was screwed over twice. I don’t know that they allow the the DNC to just raise Kamala without some type of challenge.

RFK! RFK! RFK!

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Democracy?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Democracy?:

In 2016, leaked emails showed that Debbie Wassermann-Schulz and the DNC were using their influence to make sure that Hilary was not beaten by Bernie. She nearly was.

In 2020, the DNC had closed door meetings to bribe candidates to drop out and give their unwilling support to Joe Biden to prevent Bernie from winning the nomination.

In 2024, the party has forced the sitting President and the winner of EVERY SINGLE PRIMARY to withdraw from the election so Superdelegates can decide on a new nominee.

This is the party that’s “saving democracy”?

My understanding is the superdelegates are going to hold out on the early votes.

Honestly I’m fine with parties picking their own candidates in smoke-filled rooms. I want the general election to be fair and not have magats try to reverse it if they lose.

Yep, Make America Great Again has an ominous ring, doesn't it?

[jon-nyc]

It’s like “People’s Republic of ….” or “Democratic Republic of …”.

It’s not what they say, it’s what they do.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Democracy?:

It’s like “People’s Republic of ….” or “Democratic Republic of …”.

It’s not what they say, it’s what they do.

Yes, but the Dems have been making a much bigger stink about the sanctity of Democracy the last 24 months. The republicans are always the ones pointing out that it’s representative democracy… So this will stink of hypocrisy.

[jon-nyc]

Also they didn’t force him out, they talked him into doing it for the good of the country and the party both.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Democracy?:

Also they didn’t force him out, they talked him into doing it for the good of the country and the party both.

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Democracy?:

@jon-nyc said in Democracy?:

Also they didn’t force him out, they talked him into doing it for the good of the country and the party both.

Link to video

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in Democracy?:

Also they didn’t force him out, they talked him into doing it for the good of the country and the party both.

LOL.

[jon-nyc]

You can laugh, doesn’t make it any less true. (I get that your idea of what’s good for the country and Joe’s diverge somewhat).

[Jolly]

If we were doing what was good for the country, The Resident would have left over a year ago...

The Dems are in it for power. That's why they stabbed Biden with multiple knives like murdering Caesar.

And if they'll do that to the man that got 81M votes last election and won over 95% of his party's delegates, wonder what they'll do with the MSM and the voting booth?

[jon-nyc]

These arguments fall flat to me. We didn’t have a fucking primary. No party of an incumbent has had a real primary since 1980.

[Jolly]

Well, no more retail politics or trudging through the Iowa and New Hampshire snow.

[LuFins Dad]

[Jolly]

[jon-nyc]

I heard someone mention a post-debate poll that said 75% of democrats wanted someone other than Biden.

The GOP has had weeks to plan for this. You’d think they could have come up with a better talking point than ‘this is an anti-democratic coup’.

[Jolly]

The Trump campaign dropped the first commercial criticizing Harris within the first hour or so.

[Mik]

And Harris had her fund raising website up before the ink was dry on Joe's letter.

[LuFins Dad]

In all fairness, I’m sure this isn’t how Kamala wanted this to go down. I’m sure she wanted him to win reelection.

And then have to step down in February of 2025…