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  • H Horace
    15 Jul 2024, 15:08

    The politics of the right are changing, while the politics of the left have been directionally fixed for generations.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 15:12 last edited by
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    @Horace said in Vance?:

    The politics of the right are changing, while the politics of the left have been directionally fixed for generations.

    I don't know about generations, but you're right.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Copper
      wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 15:23 last edited by
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      Mr. Vance was a Marine.

      That's enough.

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      • K kluurs
        15 Jul 2024, 14:26

        Vance may be the most loyal and controllable of the potential candidates. His alleged referencing of Trump as the "American Hitler" may haunt him a bit, but a lot of potential candidates expressed similar disparagements before they saw the light.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 15:34 last edited by
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        @kluurs said in Vance?:

        His alleged referencing of Trump as the "American Hitler" may haunt him a bit

        Maybe he meant it as a compliment.

        I was only joking

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        • J Jolly
          15 Jul 2024, 13:40

          A little disappointed, if true.

          What does Vance bring to the ticket?

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 15:36 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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          @Jolly said in Vance?:

          What does Vance bring to the ticket?

          J.D. Vance is a good-sounding name. It has a nice ring to it. Not as good as Cyrus, admittedly, but still pretty cool sounding.

          You probably think I'm kidding, but I'm not. Well, OK, maybe I am.

          I was only joking

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          • C Copper
            15 Jul 2024, 15:23

            Mr. Vance was a Marine.

            That's enough.

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            George K
            wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 16:22 last edited by
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            @Copper said in Vance?:

            Mr. Vance was is a Marine.

            Got there before @jolly....

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              15 Jul 2024, 16:22

              @Copper said in Vance?:

              Mr. Vance was is a Marine.

              Got there before @jolly....

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 16:57 last edited by jon-nyc
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              @George-K said in Vance?:

              Mr. Vance was is a Marine Yale Law School graduate.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                kluurs
                wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 17:46 last edited by
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                I enjoyed Vance's book. He has street cred.

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                • G George K
                  15 Jul 2024, 16:22

                  @Copper said in Vance?:

                  Mr. Vance was is a Marine.

                  Got there before @jolly....

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 18:04 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in Vance?:

                  @Copper said in Vance?:

                  Mr. Vance was is a Marine.

                  Got there before @jolly....

                  Yes, you did. 😄

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    George K
                    wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 18:19 last edited by George K
                    #22

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 18:36 last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        15 Jul 2024, 16:57

                        @George-K said in Vance?:

                        Mr. Vance was is a Marine Yale Law School graduate.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 18:43 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Vance?:

                        @George-K said in Vance?:
                        Mr. Vance was is a Marine Yale Law School graduate.

                        He became a Marine before going to Yale.

                        Born in Middletown, Ohio, Vance served in the Marine Corps before studying political science and philosophy at The Ohio State University and earning a Juris Doctor from Yale Law School.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          15 Jul 2024, 15:34

                          @kluurs said in Vance?:

                          His alleged referencing of Trump as the "American Hitler" may haunt him a bit

                          Maybe he meant it as a compliment.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 19:10 last edited by
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Vance?:

                          @kluurs said in Vance?:

                          His alleged referencing of Trump as the "American Hitler" may haunt him a bit

                          Maybe he meant it as a compliment.

                          Hitler was good at first. Marge Schott told me.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            George K
                            wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 19:18 last edited by
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                            WaPo: It's Vance

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/15/jd-vance-trump-vice-president-announcement/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

                            Donald Trump has chosen Sen. J.D. Vance of Ohio as his running mate, selecting a rising star in the party and previously outspoken Trump critic who in recent years has closely aligned himself with the former president.

                            Trump announced his pick Monday on Truth Social. “After lengthy deliberation and thought, and considering the tremendous talents of many others, I have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of Vice President of the United States is Senator J.D. Vance of the Great State of Ohio,” Trump wrote. He praised Vance’s education credentials and business experience.
                            If elected in November, Vance, 39, would be one of the youngest vice presidents in history. He is a relative political newcomer, winning his Senate seat in 2022 after rising to prominence as an author who wrote a best-selling memoir. His selection adds a staunch defender of Trump’s movement to the ticket and, some Republican observers said, it could help Trump solidify his base of White working-class voters, particularly in the Upper Midwest.

                            Trump’s choice for a running mate was among the most closely watched decisions of his campaign and has taken on new significance in the wake of what law enforcement has called an attempted assassination against Trump at a campaign rally on Saturday in Butler, Pa. Even before the shooting, the decision was expected to arrive at a moment of upheaval in the presidential race. Trump kept the suspense going about who he would pick as his running mate on Monday, with news breaking in the hours before his announcement that Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and North Dakota Gov. Burgum would not be his vice presidential nominee.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 19:24 last edited by
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                              Is Vance now the American Rudolf Hess or Herman Goering?

                              Both of them served in the armed forces with some distinction after all.

                              I was only joking

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 19:38 last edited by
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                                As I think about it, I believe Trump liked that Vance had a long string of successes in very different arenas, much like himself.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  15 Jul 2024, 19:38

                                  As I think about it, I believe Trump liked that Vance had a long string of successes in very different arenas, much like himself.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 19:45 last edited by
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                                  @Mik said in Vance?:

                                  As I think about it, I believe Trump liked that Vance had a long string of successes in very different arenas, much like himself.

                                  One person I saw recently said Trump had followed the TV interviews of the potential VP candidates very closely. This person said Trump had been impressed with Vance, both with his ability to argue policy successfully and with his ability to think on his feet.

                                  In an interview with Harris Faulkner four hours before he was shot, Faulkner asked him about his VP choice. Trump replied he'd been giving it a lot of thought, focusing on choosing someone who could be President and who could support his policy initiatives.

                                  I guess he thinks Vance could be President...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 19:47 last edited by
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                                    He’s a legitimately intelligent person, so that’s nice.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 19:50 last edited by
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                                      The debate with Kamala will be ugly.

                                      The Brad

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 19:57 last edited by
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                                        The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

                                        The Brad

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                                        • L LuFins Dad
                                          15 Jul 2024, 19:57

                                          The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 20:07 last edited by
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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Vance?:

                                          The big question, would Vance have certified the electors in 2020?

                                          Maybe not.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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