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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #18

    Wonder how many will read the rebuttal?

    I haven't read the 2025 project, but a non-partisan reading and a nice debate on its suggestions might be good for the American public...The sort of thing NPR and PBS ought to be doing.

    And don't.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Wonder how many will read the rebuttal?

      I haven't read the 2025 project, but a non-partisan reading and a nice debate on its suggestions might be good for the American public...The sort of thing NPR and PBS ought to be doing.

      And don't.

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      #19

      @Jolly said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

      The sort of thing NPR and PBS ought to be doing.

      I keep forgetting. What's the "P" in those stand for?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Do you consider this to be an example of that?

        89th8 Offline
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        #20

        @jon-nyc said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

        Do you consider this to be an example of that?

        Not at all. It was a pleasant exchange, actually. That was a clickbait twitter title.

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          xenon
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          #21

          Why does Ben Shapiro need to address congressional committees?

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
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            #22

            It's dumb. They wanted a conservative voice (if I were them I'd never invite Shaprio out of fear of getting logic dunked on) to talk about Project 2025 I guess? It's a mostly made up strategy by the democrats to shift focus from the Resident to fear monger about Trump.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              I've heard of project 2525. Of course, it's not clear whether their man, or indeed any man, will still be alive.

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              #23

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

              I've heard of project 2525. Of course, it's not clear whether their man, or indeed any man, will still be alive.

              I have written my congressmen to vote "no" on Zager/Evans 2525.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                I've heard of project 2525. Of course, it's not clear whether their man, or indeed any man, will still be alive.

                I have written my congressmen to vote "no" on Zager/Evans 2525.

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                #24

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                I've heard of project 2525. Of course, it's not clear whether their man, or indeed any man, will still be alive.

                I have written my congressmen to vote "no" on Zager/Evans 2525.

                😆

                Elbows up!

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                  #25

                  Cut Social Security?

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    It's dumb. They wanted a conservative voice (if I were them I'd never invite Shaprio out of fear of getting logic dunked on) to talk about Project 2025 I guess? It's a mostly made up strategy by the democrats to shift focus from the Resident to fear monger about Trump.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #26

                    @89th said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                    It's dumb. They wanted a conservative voice (if I were them I'd never invite Shaprio out of fear of getting logic dunked on) to talk about Project 2025 I guess? It's a mostly made up strategy by the democrats to shift focus from the Resident to fear monger about Trump.

                    Get with it, man!

                    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/Shapiro Testimony.pdf

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Seemed forced not clever. Like he had the joke and decided he was going to use it whether there was a good opportunity for it or not.

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                      #27

                      @jon-nyc said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                      Seemed forced not clever. Like he had the joke and decided he was going to use it whether there was a good opportunity for it or not.

                      I just listened to the full testimony, and nope, if that was the case, he would have had plenty of other opportunities before then. Swallowell was only the last straw. Multiple democrats kept going on all morning about Project 2025 though it had nothing to do with the hearing, and Shapiro finally snapped after about 90 minutes… The full part where Swallowell tried to trap Shapiro on standard conservative views and tying them into 2025 was quite a bit more extensive than the bit where they talked about bureaucracy and public spending and welcome to the Republican Party…

                      The Brad

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                        #28

                        Lauren Boebert get her "brain broken" by EPA administrator.

                        Michael Regan, the Environmental Protection Agency administrator, gave Boebert a befuddled look when she asked him if the federal agency would continue enabling “rouge bureaucrats to enact unconstitutional regulations” even after the court’s decision that ended the 40-year run of the so-called Chevron standard.

                        “Do you understand the ruling?” Regan asked the Colorado rep, calling her question “ill-formed.”

                        Boebert fired back the same question and dug her heels in the sand, asking him which regulations the EPA would “repeal” to adhere to the court’s ruling.

                        “The Supreme Court didn’t tell us to repeal anything,” Regan said before laughing and shaking his head at the congresswoman.

                        The recent Supreme Court’s decision in the case overturned the longheld precedent known as the Chevron deference that allowed federal agencies to defer to their own expertise when interpreting ambiguous language.

                        Now, it is up to the courts or Congress to interpret language during legal challenges.

                        However, the ruling does not prevent agencies from continuing to issue regulations – something Boebert’s question seemed to imply.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #29

                          She should stick to what she’s good at - public handjobs.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            @jon-nyc said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                            Seemed forced not clever. Like he had the joke and decided he was going to use it whether there was a good opportunity for it or not.

                            I just listened to the full testimony, and nope, if that was the case, he would have had plenty of other opportunities before then. Swallowell was only the last straw. Multiple democrats kept going on all morning about Project 2025 though it had nothing to do with the hearing, and Shapiro finally snapped after about 90 minutes… The full part where Swallowell tried to trap Shapiro on standard conservative views and tying them into 2025 was quite a bit more extensive than the bit where they talked about bureaucracy and public spending and welcome to the Republican Party…

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                            I just listened to the full testimony, … after about 90 minutes…

                            Damn, boy.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                              I just listened to the full testimony, … after about 90 minutes…

                              Damn, boy.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #31

                              @jon-nyc said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                              I just listened to the full testimony, … after about 90 minutes…

                              Damn, boy.

                              There was a little scrolling forward and back. Shapiro covered it on his podcast. He also wasn’t the only witness. It was the same thing.

                              I know that people like to paint MJT, Gaetz, Boebert, et all as unserious people just using committee appointments as gotcha opportunities, but yesterday proved the Dems no better.

                              The Brad

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                                #32

                                The funny thing, Google “shapiro” “swallwell” and you will see listings “Watch Eric Swallwell Grill Ben Shapiro” and such… You take 30 second clips and you can change it to whatever you want

                                The Brad

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                                  #33

                                  Biden posts this a few days ago -

                                  Then Swollenhell starts his questioning by commenting that it’s one of the most googled phrases this week. Ridiculous.

                                  The Brad

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                                    George K
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                                    The whole clip

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      Lauren Boebert get her "brain broken" by EPA administrator.

                                      Michael Regan, the Environmental Protection Agency administrator, gave Boebert a befuddled look when she asked him if the federal agency would continue enabling “rouge bureaucrats to enact unconstitutional regulations” even after the court’s decision that ended the 40-year run of the so-called Chevron standard.

                                      “Do you understand the ruling?” Regan asked the Colorado rep, calling her question “ill-formed.”

                                      Boebert fired back the same question and dug her heels in the sand, asking him which regulations the EPA would “repeal” to adhere to the court’s ruling.

                                      “The Supreme Court didn’t tell us to repeal anything,” Regan said before laughing and shaking his head at the congresswoman.

                                      The recent Supreme Court’s decision in the case overturned the longheld precedent known as the Chevron deference that allowed federal agencies to defer to their own expertise when interpreting ambiguous language.

                                      Now, it is up to the courts or Congress to interpret language during legal challenges.

                                      However, the ruling does not prevent agencies from continuing to issue regulations – something Boebert’s question seemed to imply.

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                                      89th
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                                      #35

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                                      Lauren Boebert get her "brain broken" by EPA administrator.

                                      I've said it before, but I am reminded often when I see people like her, MTG, AOC... that for better or worse, our representatives are truly elected by the people. Anyone can run, and anyone can get elected if they get enough votes (or in MTG's case, move into a house so that it changes her district). Boebert reminds me of a high school student who gets a C in history and has to try and give a report in front of the class about a book she hasn't read.

                                      "Farewell to Arms is ummm, a great book, about one man's journey to say goodbye to his gun collection. People aren't sure who wrote the book, but many people have said it has changed their lives. The end."

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        The whole clip

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                                        89th
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                                        @George-K said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                                        The whole clip

                                        LOL

                                        I feel bad for the stenographer when Ben is talking.

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Shapiro vs Swalwell:

                                          Lauren Boebert get her "brain broken" by EPA administrator.

                                          I've said it before, but I am reminded often when I see people like her, MTG, AOC... that for better or worse, our representatives are truly elected by the people. Anyone can run, and anyone can get elected if they get enough votes (or in MTG's case, move into a house so that it changes her district). Boebert reminds me of a high school student who gets a C in history and has to try and give a report in front of the class about a book she hasn't read.

                                          "Farewell to Arms is ummm, a great book, about one man's journey to say goodbye to his gun collection. People aren't sure who wrote the book, but many people have said it has changed their lives. The end."

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                                          taiwan_girl
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                                          #37

                                          @89th LOL

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