Rick's Right
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Rick's Right:
@LuFins-Dad said in Rick's Right:
I watched this earlier. I like Rick, and respect the hell out of him, but there is an element of boomerism going on.
I take it you don't get the joke in the thumbnail image then.
Him yelling at the sky? Absolutely. The whole episode he goes on explaining that he knows what it looks like, but he’s so busy trying to prove that he’s not yelling at the clouds, he completely misses the fact that he is, indeed, yelling at the sun.
I, too, think that pop music sucks today. But it has nothing to do with kids being lazy.
Google searches on Music are down 75%? Maybe, just maybe it has something to do with Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, and hundreds of other non-Google apps that I can use to search for the music I like and then it gives constant updates on other music that I may enjoy? You don’t need to search for music anymore. Just open your app.
A teacher he knows says none of his students practice? Oh noez! Just like 2014, 2004, 1994, and 1984. I imagine it was the same in 1924 as it is today,
But the simple fact remains that more Piano Level 4 books are sold per capita today than anytime we know of. Same as guitar. You don’t get to level 4 without some level of practice and commitment.
Some of the most popular videos by category on YouTube are videos teaching you to play various songs on various instruments. I hated those damn synthesia videos. A few years back I had a young kid come in and play Rach 3 that he had learned on YouTube
Link to videoI wouldn’t have thought that possible, but the kid did it. I can read music, took traditional lessons. I can’t play Rach 3 at all, so who the fuck am I to tell him he’s wrong.
Pop music sucks today? Probably because 4/5ths of the money out there wants to listen to the stuff they liked 35 years ago. And since you don’t have to listen to radio, you just find what you like and listen to it as nauseum, with Spotify making recommendations for new bands that are more of the same.
Music is stagnant right now, but it’s not because kids are lazy or are suddenly not practicing.
@LuFins-Dad said in Rick's Right:
I can’t play Rach 3 at all, so who the fuck am I to tell him he’s wrong.
Here's a fun fact. The first thing @Aqua-Letifer ever learned on piano was Rach 3. Now..... did he (and me, as well) stop at the 0:52 mark of the video above? Sure. But still... ACOLADES!
(@Aqua-Letifer and I would break into the music hall in college in the middle of the night to play the pianos)
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@LuFins-Dad said in Rick's Right:
Him yelling at the sky? Absolutely. The whole episode he goes on explaining that he knows what it looks like, but he’s so busy trying to prove that he’s not yelling at the clouds, he completely misses the fact that he is, indeed, yelling at the sun.
I, too, think that pop music sucks today. But it has nothing to do with kids being lazy.
Google searches on Music are down 75%? Maybe, just maybe it has something to do with Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, and hundreds of other non-Google apps that I can use to search for the music I like and then it gives constant updates on other music that I may enjoy? You don’t need to search for music anymore. Just open your app.
No, sorry, Rick's right. What you've completely left out is that the nature of listening has changed drastically since 1924. More "music is being played" now than ever before, and never has the listening been so marginalized through multitasking. Kids and adults alike spend less dedicated time listening to music as a singular activity—it's there to provide background noise for other activities.
Some of the most popular videos by category on YouTube are videos teaching you to play various songs on various instruments.
There's a Pareto curve at play there that you're also conveniently ignoring. The art content on the internet—articles, videos, infographics, podcasts and animated explainers—that gets the most views, shares and goes the most viral appeals to early stage beginners. It's not a linear trend, either. For every 1 viral video on intermediate guitar, there are 10 to 100 on how to play an F chord.
Pop music sucks today? Probably because 4/5ths of the money out there wants to listen to the stuff they liked 35 years ago.
They want to listen to the stuff they liked 35 years ago not because of nostalgia, but because the new stuff sucks in comparison. That's why mainstream boomers, Gen Xers and Millennials all listen to the same old music. They didn't all grow up at the same time, there's just an inflection point after which modern music stopped being worthwhile.
Music is stagnant right now, but it’s not because kids are lazy or are suddenly not practicing.
I don't blame kids for the stagnancy of music, but they are indeed lazy as fuck. And by the way, I don't blame them for that, either. The most sophisticated algorithms the world has ever devised uses hundreds of KPIs from bio data to personal histories to figure out how best to get us addicted to our screens. It's why the average teen spends 3 hours per day on social media, and kids age 10 to 12 already spend 2 hours per day. Kids in both age groups pick up their phone, on average, 150 times a day. You can't tell me that doesn't seriously undermine their music education when it's wrought havoc on their mental health.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Rick's Right:
@LuFins-Dad said in Rick's Right:
Him yelling at the sky? Absolutely. The whole episode he goes on explaining that he knows what it looks like, but he’s so busy trying to prove that he’s not yelling at the clouds, he completely misses the fact that he is, indeed, yelling at the sun.
I, too, think that pop music sucks today. But it has nothing to do with kids being lazy.
Google searches on Music are down 75%? Maybe, just maybe it has something to do with Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, and hundreds of other non-Google apps that I can use to search for the music I like and then it gives constant updates on other music that I may enjoy? You don’t need to search for music anymore. Just open your app.
No, sorry, Rick's right. What you've completely left out is that the nature of listening has changed drastically since 1924. More "music is being played" now than ever before, and never has the listening been so marginalized through multitasking. Kids and adults alike spend less dedicated time listening to music as a singular activity—it's there to provide background noise for other activities.
Some of the most popular videos by category on YouTube are videos teaching you to play various songs on various instruments.
There's a Pareto curve at play there that you're also conveniently ignoring. The art content on the internet—articles, videos, infographics, podcasts and animated explainers—that gets the most views, shares and goes the most viral appeals to early stage beginners. It's not a linear trend, either. For every 1 viral video on intermediate guitar, there are 10 to 100 on how to play an F chord.
Pop music sucks today? Probably because 4/5ths of the money out there wants to listen to the stuff they liked 35 years ago.
They want to listen to the stuff they liked 35 years ago not because of nostalgia, but because the new stuff sucks in comparison. That's why mainstream boomers, Gen Xers and Millennials all listen to the same old music. They didn't all grow up at the same time, there's just an inflection point after which modern music stopped being worthwhile.
Music is stagnant right now, but it’s not because kids are lazy or are suddenly not practicing.
I don't blame kids for the stagnancy of music, but they are indeed lazy as fuck. And by the way, I don't blame them for that, either. The most sophisticated algorithms the world has ever devised uses hundreds of KPIs from bio data to personal histories to figure out how best to get us addicted to our screens. It's why the average teen spends 3 hours per day on social media, and kids age 10 to 12 already spend 2 hours per day. Kids in both age groups pick up their phone, on average, 150 times a day. You can't tell me that doesn't seriously undermine their music education when it's wrought havoc on their mental health.
Excellent reply. I was agreeing with Rick in the video, and agree with you. Sure, in the moment it's easy for me to agree with Rick and maybe in 20-40 years I can look back and think "what an old fart complaining about kids". But it's true, and I'm guilty as well... I was fast forwarding through Rick's video when I became slightly bored. His video is 7 minutes long and I couldn't wait to skip forward? Kids at the pool are sitting on chairs just staring at their phones. My wife, stares at her phone as we watch 60 Minutes together. Me? I associate using the bathroom with time to catch up online, including TNCR! It's hard to imagine kids these days working to get through the GameBoy game "Zelda: Link's Awakening" without a shortcut. I spend weeks if not months trying to figure out how to beat that game.............that type of patience is rare these days, and I'm guilty of it, too.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Rick's Right:
@LuFins-Dad said in Rick's Right:
Him yelling at the sky? Absolutely. The whole episode he goes on explaining that he knows what it looks like, but he’s so busy trying to prove that he’s not yelling at the clouds, he completely misses the fact that he is, indeed, yelling at the sun.
I, too, think that pop music sucks today. But it has nothing to do with kids being lazy.
Google searches on Music are down 75%? Maybe, just maybe it has something to do with Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, and hundreds of other non-Google apps that I can use to search for the music I like and then it gives constant updates on other music that I may enjoy? You don’t need to search for music anymore. Just open your app.
No, sorry, Rick's right. What you've completely left out is that the nature of listening has changed drastically since 1924. More "music is being played" now than ever before, and never has the listening been so marginalized through multitasking. Kids and adults alike spend less dedicated time listening to music as a singular activity—it's there to provide background noise for other activities.
Some of the most popular videos by category on YouTube are videos teaching you to play various songs on various instruments.
There's a Pareto curve at play there that you're also conveniently ignoring. The art content on the internet—articles, videos, infographics, podcasts and animated explainers—that gets the most views, shares and goes the most viral appeals to early stage beginners. It's not a linear trend, either. For every 1 viral video on intermediate guitar, there are 10 to 100 on how to play an F chord.
Pop music sucks today? Probably because 4/5ths of the money out there wants to listen to the stuff they liked 35 years ago.
They want to listen to the stuff they liked 35 years ago not because of nostalgia, but because the new stuff sucks in comparison. That's why mainstream boomers, Gen Xers and Millennials all listen to the same old music. They didn't all grow up at the same time, there's just an inflection point after which modern music stopped being worthwhile.
Music is stagnant right now, but it’s not because kids are lazy or are suddenly not practicing.
I don't blame kids for the stagnancy of music, but they are indeed lazy as fuck. And by the way, I don't blame them for that, either. The most sophisticated algorithms the world has ever devised uses hundreds of KPIs from bio data to personal histories to figure out how best to get us addicted to our screens. It's why the average teen spends 3 hours per day on social media, and kids age 10 to 12 already spend 2 hours per day. Kids in both age groups pick up their phone, on average, 150 times a day. You can't tell me that doesn't seriously undermine their music education when it's wrought havoc on their mental health.
You know a lot more about social media and the algorithms and approaches, I’ll bow to your expertise there.
On the other hand, I spent this morning meeting and working with one of the preeminent piano instructors in the mid-Atlantic. Then I had a phone call with the the coordinator of the fastest growing music studio chain in the United States. They’ve opened 9 locations and 40 studios in the DC area since 2022, and are preparing to expand. Then I spent the afternoon meeting with the piano coordinator at a University in Baltimore that is expanding their music programs. Tomorrow I have to confirm my attendance at the College Music Society’s convention in November. This past month, we hosted over 40 teachers and 800 students for the Piano Guild Auditions.
My point is that I think I have a pretty good idea what’s happening in music education right now, and it is not the doom and gloom being presented by Rick, and that you choose to believe.
@LuFins-Dad said in Rick's Right:
On the other hand, I spent this morning meeting and working with one of the preeminent piano instructors in the mid-Atlantic. Then I had a phone call with the the coordinator of the fastest growing music studio chain in the United States. They’ve opened 9 locations and 40 studios in the DC area since 2022, and are preparing to expand. Then I spent the afternoon meeting with the piano coordinator at a University in Baltimore that is expanding their music programs. Tomorrow I have to confirm my attendance at the College Music Society’s convention in November. This past month, we hosted over 40 teachers and 800 students for the Piano Guild Auditions.
My point is that I think I have a pretty good idea what’s happening in music education right now, and it is not the doom and gloom being presented by Rick, and that you choose to believe.
Can we pause for a moment and recognize how GOOD you are at your profession?
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Sorry, but I still think it's hilarious what he said about kids today being too lazy to play computer games. That's the most boomer thing I've ever heard in my life.
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Sorry, but I still think it's hilarious what he said about kids today being too lazy to play computer games. That's the most boomer thing I've ever heard in my life.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Rick's Right:
Sorry, but I still think it's hilarious what he said about kids today being too lazy to play computer games. That's the most boomer thing I've ever heard in my life.
I think you're just bitter about his guitar lessons.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Rick's Right:
Sorry, but I still think it's hilarious what he said about kids today being too lazy to play computer games. That's the most boomer thing I've ever heard in my life.
I think you're just bitter about his guitar lessons.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Rick's Right:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Rick's Right:
Sorry, but I still think it's hilarious what he said about kids today being too lazy to play computer games. That's the most boomer thing I've ever heard in my life.
I think you're just bitter about his guitar lessons.
I think he's a great guy, and he puts out a ton of free stuff. Some of his explanations of music theory get a bit confusing, he has an occasional tendency to tie himself up in knots with things that could be explained more simply, but all credit to him - he's doing this stuff pretty much for free, and he clearly really loves music.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Rick's Right:
@Jolly said in Rick's Right:
Oh, it's not for free...
Well, I don't need to pay at least.
You don't have to because other people do.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Rick's Right:
@Jolly said in Rick's Right:
Oh, it's not for free...
Well, I don't need to pay at least.
You don't have to because other people do.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Rick's Right:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Rick's Right:
@Jolly said in Rick's Right:
Oh, it's not for free...
Well, I don't need to pay at least.
You don't have to because other people do.
Freedom of choice. It's what made America great. That and the mixolydian scale.
