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That’s the year I turn 65…

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  • George KG George K

    @89th said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

    As long as the money you contribute to SS gets paid back to you,

    Don't have the numbers handy, but iirc, if you live to your projected age, you'll have received more in benefits than you put in.

    Ponzi's gotta Ponzi.

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    @George-K said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

    @89th said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

    As long as the money you contribute to SS gets paid back to you,

    Don't have the numbers handy, but iirc, if you live to your projected age, you'll have received more in benefits than you put in.

    Ponzi's gotta Ponzi.

    I believe it’s somewhere around 2% annual return? At least, that’s what it was 20 years ago during the privatization debate.

    Question, what does the Federal Deficit look like without SS and Medicare?

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      They shoulda invested the SS fund in the stock market. We'd all be rich.

      Education is extremely important.

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          They shoulda invested the SS fund in the stock market. We'd all be rich.

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          @Horace said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

          They shoulda invested the SS fund in the stock market. We'd all be rich.

          I wouldn’t want the government to own trillions of dollars worth of stocks. How long would it take to be abused?

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @Horace said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

            They shoulda invested the SS fund in the stock market. We'd all be rich.

            I wouldn’t want the government to own trillions of dollars worth of stocks. How long would it take to be abused?

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            @jon-nyc said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

            @Horace said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

            They shoulda invested the SS fund in the stock market. We'd all be rich.

            I wouldn’t want the government to own trillions of dollars worth of stocks. How long would it take to be abused?

            Imagine the crisis in state pension funds if they followed the same rule as the SS fund has.

            Education is extremely important.

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              We beat Medicare, why not do the same thing with SS?

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                @Jolly said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

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                What do you want to change?

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                  I’d take out $1B for the Education Department and allocate it to myself.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    I don't think that 9.1% Remainder is enough to cover college tuition loan cancellation.

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                      Note: See any debt payment?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        They seem to be excluding interest on the national debt.

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                          Bingo!

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            @Horace said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

                            They shoulda invested the SS fund in the stock market. We'd all be rich.

                            I wouldn’t want the government to own trillions of dollars worth of stocks. How long would it take to be abused?

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                            @jon-nyc said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

                            @Horace said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

                            They shoulda invested the SS fund in the stock market. We'd all be rich.

                            I wouldn’t want the government to own trillions of dollars worth of stocks. How long would it take to be abused?

                            Not only that, but I think the reason they do not invest in stocks also is if there is a long term decline in the stock market.

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                              @jon-nyc said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

                              @Horace said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

                              They shoulda invested the SS fund in the stock market. We'd all be rich.

                              I wouldn’t want the government to own trillions of dollars worth of stocks. How long would it take to be abused?

                              Not only that, but I think the reason they do not invest in stocks also is if there is a long term decline in the stock market.

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                              @taiwan_girl said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

                              @jon-nyc said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

                              @Horace said in That’s the year I turn 65…:

                              They shoulda invested the SS fund in the stock market. We'd all be rich.

                              I wouldn’t want the government to own trillions of dollars worth of stocks. How long would it take to be abused?

                              Not only that, but I think the reason they do not invest in stocks also is if there is a long term decline in the stock market.

                              I guess the majority of state pensions are invested in the stock market.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                CalPERS carries a lot of weight in the market.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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